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Marty,
Don't get me wrong, I am blown away by the Player, just not
the person. If you were there at the Jim Pash bennefit, when he was
talking shit on Dusty I think you might have a different view too.
I'm one of the first people to aknowedge his( and leo's) Pioneering
of Bigger badder better amps, speakers, Reverb, etc, etc.
Many surf o philes dis regard this, or don't believe.
I've seen Dick probably about 30 times in 8 years. The only way I'll
see him now is if he's playing a free show somewhere. Or local surf
bands are opening for him.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Marty Tippens"
<mctippens@e...> wrote:
> And then there are those who are still blinded by the "bigness"
that is Dick Dale. Big Tiki and Billy Blastoff, repent! You will be
one of us!
> -Stepford Marty
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ipongrac
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 8:50 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Nitro Fuel fails to ignite
>
>
> God, so many great posts today!! Very cool! Of course, that
> happens when I have no time to participate. Typical. Well, I'll
> try now...
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > Now wait a minute, Ivan,
> >
> > I remember a certain lead guitarist of the Space Cossacks who
was
> > much less enamered with Dick Dale being more distracted by
Dick's
> > ego, and when talk of Dick came up on the lists, he made less
than
> > complimentary remarks about the guy. So now there's a drought
in
> > Dick talk and you're not happy about it! Well ultimately I'm
> > refreshed that you are now championing the King of the Surf
> > Guitar.
>
> Ah, Marty, you think you got me, but I challenge you to find
among
> all of those less-than-complimentary comments I had about Dick
even
> one disparaging remark about his music or guitar playing,
especially
> from the sixties! Nope, won't happen, cause I never uttered it.
> I'll freely admit that between '98 and '00 I had had it with
Dick's
> antics at his live shows, all of his self-promotion, his twisting
of
> historical facts, his crap about indiginous people everywhere,
> enviromentalism. (BTW, I greatly enjoyed his shows last month
and
> last year, but he's a lot better than he was in the nineties, I
> think.) But none of that matters - what matters is the awesome
> music he left us.
>
> The point is, as I also tried to indicate in a previous message,
> that as I made some effort to get to know some of his more
obscure
> music, I was richly rewarded, which is why I'm recommending it on
> the list to the others. There are a lot of lost diamonds on
those
> six albums of his, that few surf fans know about. (Another
> one: "Firing Up" - what awesome guitar work there is on that one!)
>
> > I do get that your point is really about the lack of surf talk
in
> > general on this list and not so much about Dick Dale but
keeping
> > on DD, I'm guessin' Rhino, Sundazed or EMI could have released
the
> > Capitol albums. It's a mystery to me why they haven't.
>
> It seems you all did a good job covering this. I agree it's
> Dick's 'fault.' He owns the masters and for whatever reason
doesn't
> want to reissue the albums. We need an email campaign...
>
> > Of course that partially 'splains why few in the group can talk
> > about the albums and their deep tracks.
>
> Right, I get that, but they're still out there and available.
And
> the bootlegs are around too. My point was to get people
interested
> in trying to discover that stuff. And I know SOME people know
about
> the song, as was shown subsequently.
>
> > I was gonna say that lists devoted to certain artists as
opposed
> > to this list devoted to the whole genre, feature talk that goes
> > much deeper into obscure album tracks. It does on The Ventures
> > list that I host and The Shadows list but then I think about
the
> > Chet list that was goin' great guns and has sorta died out.
Some
> > lists seem to have a shelf life.
>
> Well, these lists are what we make them. If people immediately
go
> off on non-surf tangents when a topic comes up, then nobody's
gonna
> give a crap. But if we consciously decide to stick to the
topics,
> it may be only a couple of people initially discussing something,
> but that discussion may trigger further discussion and so on.
> Obviously, conversation progress by following tangents - but as
long
> as the tangents are relevant to surf music, it's no problem. As
> we've seen today, there are a lot of people that want to learn
more
> about sixties surf and there are some people that do in fact know
> something or even much about it. I think I know quite a bit, but
I
> really want to learn more. And I do learn more from others,
which
> is why I'm here in the first place. But as great as many of the
non-
> surf artists are that have popped on this list discussions, I
> absolutely believe they're discussion killers. People are not
here
> to talk about non-surf artists. So, let's all be a bit more
aware
> of that and a bit more focused in our discussions.
>
> Also, people shouldn't be afraid to ASK QUESTIONS!!! If you
don't
> know something but have some interest, bring it up, for God's
sake!
> That's how we all get an opportunity to engage in some
interesting
> discussion, be exposed to some surf music that we don't know, and
> learn in the process.
>
> Ivan
>
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