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Marty:
The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of the
Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first album
(My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass with
thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the fretboard.
Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds, Entwistle
typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according to
John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung with
LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
"on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
issue".
Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
#2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn #3...the
last one in England at that time according to John.
The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John purchased
a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this day
on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the Jazz
bass/LaBella combination.
Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud everytime
I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
superior roundwound bass strings.
your friend in bass,
-dp
--- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
> Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> strings first being only available on a certain brand of
> bass guitar. When he broke a string during the recording
> of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a new
> bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Neal
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
>
>
> --- In , Dan Bartley
> <bigtwangguy@y...>
> wrote:
> > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> played with
> flatwound strings?
> > Dan
>
> This is an interesting question because I've always
> assumed that it
> would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> with flatwounds.
> I've always been told that round wounds were not widely
> available in
> the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> Again, this is
> what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> the last 8 or 9
> years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> and forums. But
> I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> guys remember
> what strings you used? ;-)
>
> Players used to have to mix and match sets and even use
> banjo strings
> if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> string.
>
> I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this, but
> I could be
> wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was using
> flats, nor Hank
> Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> Astronauts used.
>
> BN
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: DP
To:
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds (the Entwistle roundwound story)
Marty:
The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of the
Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first album
(My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass with
thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the fretboard.
Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds, Entwistle
typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according to
John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung with
LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
"on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
issue".
Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
#2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn #3...the
last one in England at that time according to John.
The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John purchased
a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this day
on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the Jazz
bass/LaBella combination.
Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud everytime
I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
superior roundwound bass strings.
your friend in bass,
-dp
--- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
> Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> strings first being only available on a certain brand of
> bass guitar. When he broke a string during the recording
> of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a new
> bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Neal
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
>
>
> --- In , Dan Bartley
> <bigtwangguy@y...>
> wrote:
> > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> played with
> flatwound strings?
> > Dan
>
> This is an interesting question because I've always
> assumed that it
> would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> with flatwounds.
> I've always been told that round wounds were not widely
> available in
> the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> Again, this is
> what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> the last 8 or 9
> years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> and forums. But
> I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> guys remember
> what strings you used? ;-)
>
> Players used to have to mix and match sets and even use
> banjo strings
> if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> string.
>
> I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this, but
> I could be
> wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was using
> flats, nor Hank
> Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> Astronauts used.
>
> BN
>
>
>
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PS: I have one of the reissue Danelectro 6-string
basses...it plays great, and yes, the strings do "vibrate
corrctly"...but, the stock Danelectro "Vintage" 6-string
sets are getting kind of rare (and pricey!)...don't worry
though, I won't be needing to play the solo for "My
Generation" anytime soon. I just use the Dano-6 for
bitchen "Rebel Rouser" Duane Eddy ripoff riffs!
still on bass,
-dp
--- DP <> wrote:
> Marty:
>
> The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
> 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of
> the
> Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first
> album
> (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass
> with
> thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
> otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the
> fretboard.
> Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds,
> Entwistle
> typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according
> to
> John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
> he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung
> with
> LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
> "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
> these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> issue".
>
> Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
> his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
> Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
> strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
> #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn
> #3...the
> last one in England at that time according to John.
>
> The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John
> purchased
> a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
> flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this
> day
> on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
> speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the
> Jazz
> bass/LaBella combination.
>
> Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
> to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
> produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud
> everytime
> I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
>
> And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
> about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> superior roundwound bass strings.
>
> your friend in bass,
> -dp
>
> --- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> > strings first being only available on a certain brand
> of
> > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the
> recording
> > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a
> new
> > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Neal
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> >
> >
> > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> > played with
> > flatwound strings?
> > > Dan
> >
> > This is an interesting question because I've always
> > assumed that it
> > would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> > with flatwounds.
> > I've always been told that round wounds were not
> widely
> > available in
> > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> > Again, this is
> > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> > the last 8 or 9
> > years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> > and forums. But
> > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> > guys remember
> > what strings you used? ;-)
> >
> > Players used to have to mix and match sets and even
> use
> > banjo strings
> > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> > string.
> >
> > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this,
> but
> > I could be
> > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was
> using
> > flats, nor Hank
> > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> > Astronauts used.
> >
> > BN
> >
> >
> >
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John Entwistle is my hero.
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> Marty:
>
> The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
> 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of the
> Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first album
> (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass with
> thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
> otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the fretboard.
> Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds, Entwistle
> typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according to
> John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
> he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung with
> LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
> "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
> these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> issue".
>
> Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
> his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
> Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
> strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
> #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn #3...the
> last one in England at that time according to John.
>
> The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John purchased
> a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
> flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this day
> on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
> speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the Jazz
> bass/LaBella combination.
>
> Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
> to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
> produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud everytime
> I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
>
> And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
> about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> superior roundwound bass strings.
>
> your friend in bass,
> -dp
>
> --- Marty Tippens <mctippens@e...> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> > strings first being only available on a certain brand of
> > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the recording
> > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a new
> > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Neal
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> >
> >
> > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> > played with
> > flatwound strings?
> > > Dan
> >
> > This is an interesting question because I've always
> > assumed that it
> > would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> > with flatwounds.
> > I've always been told that round wounds were not widely
> > available in
> > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> > Again, this is
> > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> > the last 8 or 9
> > years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> > and forums. But
> > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> > guys remember
> > what strings you used? ;-)
> >
> > Players used to have to mix and match sets and even use
> > banjo strings
> > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> > string.
> >
> > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this, but
> > I could be
> > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was using
> > flats, nor Hank
> > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> > Astronauts used.
> >
> > BN
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--- In , "Jacob Dobner"
<jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
> John Entwistle is my hero.
>
> --- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> > Marty:
> >
> > The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
> > 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of the
> > Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first album
> > (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass with
> > thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
> > otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the fretboard.
> > Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds, Entwistle
> > typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> > flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according to
> > John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> > Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
> > he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung with
> > LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> > Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
> > "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
> > these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> > issue".
> >
> > Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
> > his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> > strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
> > Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
> > strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
> > #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn #3...the
> > last one in England at that time according to John.
> >
> > The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> > attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John purchased
> > a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
> > flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this day
> > on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> > rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
> > speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the Jazz
> > bass/LaBella combination.
> >
> > Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
> > to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
> > produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> > roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud everytime
> > I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
> >
> > And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
> > about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> > superior roundwound bass strings.
> >
> > your friend in bass,
> > -dp
> >
> > --- Marty Tippens <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> > > strings first being only available on a certain brand of
> > > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the recording
> > > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a new
> > > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brian Neal
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> > > played with
> > > flatwound strings?
> > > > Dan
> > >
> > > This is an interesting question because I've always
> > > assumed that it
> > > would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> > > with flatwounds.
> > > I've always been told that round wounds were not widely
> > > available in
> > > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> > > Again, this is
> > > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> > > the last 8 or 9
> > > years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> > > and forums. But
> > > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> > > guys remember
> > > what strings you used? ;-)
> > >
> > > Players used to have to mix and match sets and even use
> > > banjo strings
> > > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> > > string.
> > >
> > > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this, but
> > > I could be
> > > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was using
> > > flats, nor Hank
> > > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> > > Astronauts used.
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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John Entwistle was always the bass hero..."too late the
hero"...right?
Someone should record a surf version of "The Real Me"...in
honor of John...
-dp
--- Jacob Dobner <> wrote:
> John Entwistle is my hero.
>
> --- In , DP <noetical1@y...>
> wrote:
> > Marty:
> >
> > The John Entwistle story would have been late
> 1964-early
> > 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of
> the
> > Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first
> album
> > (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass
> with
> > thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
> > otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the
> fretboard.
> > Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds,
> Entwistle
> > typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> > flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly"
> according to
> > John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> > Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not
> believe
> > he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung
> with
> > LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> > Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to
> be
> > "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all
> of
> > these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> > issue".
> >
> > Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings
> on
> > his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> > strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
> > Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin
> guage
> > strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped
> DanoBass
> > #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn
> #3...the
> > last one in England at that time according to John.
> >
> > The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> > attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John
> purchased
> > a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
> > flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this
> day
> > on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> > rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
> > speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the
> Jazz
> > bass/LaBella combination.
> >
> > Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led
> Entwistle
> > to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop
> and
> > produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> > roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud
> everytime
> > I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
> >
> > And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to
> know
> > about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> > superior roundwound bass strings.
> >
> > your friend in bass,
> > -dp
> >
> > --- Marty Tippens <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> > > strings first being only available on a certain brand
> of
> > > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the
> recording
> > > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a
> new
> > > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brian Neal
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > What are some of the original surf songs that
> were
> > > played with
> > > flatwound strings?
> > > > Dan
> > >
> > > This is an interesting question because I've always
> > > assumed that it
> > > would be most surf songs from the 60's were
> recorded
> > > with flatwounds.
> > > I've always been told that round wounds were not
> widely
> > > available in
> > > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> > > Again, this is
> > > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut
> for
> > > the last 8 or 9
> > > years. I've asked this question on a variety of
> lists
> > > and forums. But
> > > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you
> older
> > > guys remember
> > > what strings you used? ;-)
> > >
> > > Players used to have to mix and match sets and even
> use
> > > banjo strings
> > > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain)
> G
> > > string.
> > >
> > > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this,
> but
> > > I could be
> > > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was
> using
> > > flats, nor Hank
> > > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what
> The
> > > Astronauts used.
> > >
> > > BN
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superior roundwound bass strings.
your friend in bass,
-dp
Now, if only he could of stayed away from Blow and Hookers.............
B-B-O
---- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
> Thanks for the details, DP!
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DP
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds (the Entwistle roundwound story)
>
>
> Marty:
>
> The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
> 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of the
> Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first album
> (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass with
> thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
> otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the fretboard.
> Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds, Entwistle
> typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according to
> John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
> he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung with
> LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
> "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
> these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> issue".
>
> Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
> his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
> Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
> strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
> #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn #3...the
> last one in England at that time according to John.
>
> The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John purchased
> a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
> flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this day
> on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
> speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the Jazz
> bass/LaBella combination.
>
> Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
> to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
> produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud everytime
> I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
>
> And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
> about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> superior roundwound bass strings.
>
> your friend in bass,
> -dp
>
> --- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> > strings first being only available on a certain brand of
> > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the recording
> > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a new
> > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Neal
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> >
> >
> > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> > played with
> > flatwound strings?
> > > Dan
> >
> > This is an interesting question because I've always
> > assumed that it
> > would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> > with flatwounds.
> > I've always been told that round wounds were not widely
> > available in
> > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> > Again, this is
> > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> > the last 8 or 9
> > years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> > and forums. But
> > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> > guys remember
> > what strings you used? ;-)
> >
> > Players used to have to mix and match sets and even use
> > banjo strings
> > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> > string.
> >
> > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this, but
> > I could be
> > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was using
> > flats, nor Hank
> > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> > Astronauts used.
> >
> > BN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
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And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
superior roundwound bass strings.
your friend in bass,
-dp
Now, if only he could of stayed away from Blow and Hookers.............
B-B-O
---- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
> Thanks for the details, DP!
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DP
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds (the Entwistle roundwound story)
>
>
> Marty:
>
> The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
> 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of the
> Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first album
> (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass with
> thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
> otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the fretboard.
> Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds, Entwistle
> typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according to
> John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
> he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung with
> LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
> "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
> these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> issue".
>
> Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
> his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
> Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
> strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
> #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn #3...the
> last one in England at that time according to John.
>
> The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John purchased
> a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
> flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this day
> on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
> speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the Jazz
> bass/LaBella combination.
>
> Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
> to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
> produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud everytime
> I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
>
> And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
> about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> superior roundwound bass strings.
>
> your friend in bass,
> -dp
>
> --- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> > strings first being only available on a certain brand of
> > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the recording
> > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a new
> > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Neal
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> >
> >
> > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> > played with
> > flatwound strings?
> > > Dan
> >
> > This is an interesting question because I've always
> > assumed that it
> > would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> > with flatwounds.
> > I've always been told that round wounds were not widely
> > available in
> > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> > Again, this is
> > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> > the last 8 or 9
> > years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> > and forums. But
> > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> > guys remember
> > what strings you used? ;-)
> >
> > Players used to have to mix and match sets and even use
> > banjo strings
> > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> > string.
> >
> > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this, but
> > I could be
> > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was using
> > flats, nor Hank
> > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> > Astronauts used.
> >
> > BN
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> > Visit for
> > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> >
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hey! I know that girl!...and she's not really a
"proffessional"...she's just a regular Entwistle groupie
who was interested in his four-finger bass playing
technique...
poor poor John...now he's the butt of endless jokes all
over the internet...see what cocaine will do to you?
-dp
--- wrote:
>
> And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to
> know
> about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> superior roundwound bass strings.
>
> your friend in bass,
> -dp
>
> Now, if only he could of stayed away from Blow and
> Hookers.............
>
> B-B-O
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
> > Thanks for the details, DP!
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: DP
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds (the
> Entwistle roundwound story)
> >
> >
> > Marty:
> >
> > The John Entwistle story would have been late
> 1964-early
> > 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years
> of the
> > Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first
> album
> > (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro
> bass with
> > thin roundwound strings that "vibrated
> correctly"...in
> > otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the
> fretboard.
> > Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds,
> Entwistle
> > typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> > flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly"
> according to
> > John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> > Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not
> believe
> > he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also
> strung with
> > LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> > Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to
> be
> > "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all
> of
> > these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> > issue".
> >
> > Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings
> on
> > his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> > strings in England, so he purchased a second
> Danelectro
> > Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin
> guage
> > strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped
> DanoBass
> > #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn
> #3...the
> > last one in England at that time according to John.
> >
> > The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> > attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John
> purchased
> > a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new
> LaBella
> > flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to
> this day
> > on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> > rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate
> and
> > speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the
> Jazz
> > bass/LaBella combination.
> >
> > Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led
> Entwistle
> > to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop
> and
> > produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> > roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud
> everytime
> > I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
> >
> > And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to
> know
> > about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development
> of
> > superior roundwound bass strings.
> >
> > your friend in bass,
> > -dp
> >
> > --- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about
> roundwound
> > > strings first being only available on a certain
> brand of
> > > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the
> recording
> > > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get
> a new
> > > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brian Neal
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > What are some of the original surf songs that
> were
> > > played with
> > > flatwound strings?
> > > > Dan
> > >
> > > This is an interesting question because I've
> always
> > > assumed that it
> > > would be most surf songs from the 60's were
> recorded
> > > with flatwounds.
> > > I've always been told that round wounds were not
> widely
> > > available in
> > > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy
> flats.
> > > Again, this is
> > > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut
> for
> > > the last 8 or 9
> > > years. I've asked this question on a variety of
> lists
> > > and forums. But
> > > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you
> older
> > > guys remember
> > > what strings you used? ;-)
> > >
> > > Players used to have to mix and match sets and
> even use
> > > banjo strings
> > > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound
> (plain) G
> > > string.
> > >
> > > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming
> this, but
> > > I could be
> > > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was
> using
> > > flats, nor Hank
> > > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what
> The
> > > Astronauts used.
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > > Visit
> for
> > > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
> > >
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Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds (the Entwistle roundwound story)
John Entwistle is my hero.
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> Marty:
>
> The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
> 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of the
> Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first album
> (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass with
> thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
> otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the fretboard.
> Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds, Entwistle
> typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according to
> John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
> he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung with
> LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
> "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
> these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> issue".
>
> Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
> his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
> Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
> strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
> #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn #3...the
> last one in England at that time according to John.
>
> The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John purchased
> a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
> flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this day
> on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
> speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the Jazz
> bass/LaBella combination.
>
> Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
> to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
> produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud everytime
> I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
>
> And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
> about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> superior roundwound bass strings.
>
> your friend in bass,
> -dp
>
> --- Marty Tippens <mctippens@e...> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> > strings first being only available on a certain brand of
> > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the recording
> > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a new
> > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Brian Neal
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> >
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> > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> > played with
> > flatwound strings?
> > > Dan
> >
> > This is an interesting question because I've always
> > assumed that it
> > would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> > with flatwounds.
> > I've always been told that round wounds were not widely
> > available in
> > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> > Again, this is
> > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> > the last 8 or 9
> > years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> > and forums. But
> > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> > guys remember
> > what strings you used? ;-)
> >
> > Players used to have to mix and match sets and even use
> > banjo strings
> > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> > string.
> >
> > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this, but
> > I could be
> > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was using
> > flats, nor Hank
> > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> > Astronauts used.
> >
> > BN
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Same here. Daltrey to a lesser extent than Townshend or Moon. Daltrey
didn't dress well. Townshend to me, as a rhythm guitarist, has been
very influential in my devlopement. His rhythm on Pinball Wizard is
the kind of rhythm I like to hear on surf albums.
The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin, even Cream, are often held above
The Who. But to me The Who are the second best of the non-surf bands
next to the Beatles. And Keith Moon was in a vocal surf band and The
Who did Barbara Ann.
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> That whole Who band is my hero.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jacob Dobner
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 7:33 PM
> Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds (the Entwistle roundwound
story)
>
>
> John Entwistle is my hero.
>
> --- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> > Marty:
> >
> > The John Entwistle story would have been late 1964-early
> > 1965, during the MOD/High Numbers/Marquee Club years of the
> > Who. While rehearsing and recording the Who's first album
> > (My Generation), Entwistle purchased a Danelectro bass with
> > thin roundwound strings that "vibrated correctly"...in
> > otherwords, the strings vibrated parallel to the fretboard.
> > Before discovering these Danelectro roundwounds, Entwistle
> > typically used a Fender Precision strung with LaBella
> > flatwounds...these "did not vibrate correctly" according to
> > John. Occasionally, Entwistle can be seen playing a
> > Mosrite Ventures model bass onstage, but I do not believe
> > he ever recorded with it. The Mosrite was also strung with
> > LaBella flatwounds. John also used various Vox and
> > Rickenbacker basses at this time, but these appear to be
> > "on-stage" instruments only. I would imagine that all of
> > these basses came with flatwound strings as "standard
> > issue".
> >
> > Back to the Danelectro story...John broke the strings on
> > his first Danelectro, and could not find replacement
> > strings in England, so he purchased a second Danelectro
> > Longhorn bass which came stock with roundwound thin guage
> > strings. During further rehearsals, he snapped DanoBass
> > #2's strings and proceeded to locate Dano Longhorn #3...the
> > last one in England at that time according to John.
> >
> > The last Danelectro did not hold up to John's bass
> > attack...its strings broke too. Ultimately, John purchased
> > a Fender Jazz Bass and strung it with brand new LaBella
> > flatwounds to record the solo that we all hear to this day
> > on My Generation. According to John, the planned and
> > rehearsed Danelectro solos were much more intricate and
> > speedy than the one he finally recorded utilizing the Jazz
> > bass/LaBella combination.
> >
> > Eventually, this whole roundwound conondrum led Entwistle
> > to form an alliance with the Howe company to develop and
> > produce the Rotosound RS66 (stands for 1966) line of
> > roundwound bass strings...a move which I applaud everytime
> > I strap on my Rotosound strung Fender Bass!
> >
> > And there you have it...more than you ever wanted to know
> > about John Entwisle, Danelectro and the development of
> > superior roundwound bass strings.
> >
> > your friend in bass,
> > -dp
> >
> > --- Marty Tippens <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, John Entwistle told some story about roundwound
> > > strings first being only available on a certain brand of
> > > bass guitar. When he broke a string during the recording
> > > of My Generation (circa '65 or '66) , he had to get a new
> > > bass cause nobody carried the strings.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Brian Neal
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:07 PM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Dan Bartley
> > > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > What are some of the original surf songs that were
> > > played with
> > > flatwound strings?
> > > > Dan
> > >
> > > This is an interesting question because I've always
> > > assumed that it
> > > would be most surf songs from the 60's were recorded
> > > with flatwounds.
> > > I've always been told that round wounds were not widely
> > > available in
> > > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy flats.
> > > Again, this is
> > > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut for
> > > the last 8 or 9
> > > years. I've asked this question on a variety of lists
> > > and forums. But
> > > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you older
> > > guys remember
> > > what strings you used? ;-)
> > >
> > > Players used to have to mix and match sets and even use
> > > banjo strings
> > > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound (plain) G
> > > string.
> > >
> > > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming this, but
> > > I could be
> > > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was using
> > > flats, nor Hank
> > > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what The
> > > Astronauts used.
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > archived messages, bookmarks, files, polls, etc.
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And Keith Moon was in a vocal surf band and The
> Who did Barbara Ann.
...and Bucket T! (Jan and Dean)
Keith also did a lot of leg work in getting the BBs "bigger" in
England leading up to Pet Sounds and even jammed with them in pick up
groups in pubs while they were over there.
Unlike our friend Bill, who I'm sure keeps up with all
of his, no doubt many, groupies. :)
Richard
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> groupies then
> he's your man!
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