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Jaguar buffs...here's a test for you!

Gavin Ehringer (windanseabeachboy) - 15 Jun 2005 23:00:08

Went to the Guitar Center just to kill some time. Saw a Jaguar on the wall,
something I've
never seen there before!
Asked to play it. It said 1965 Jaguar on the hang tag, price $2,599. But oh
boy!, but it was
nice. But not a '65, IMHO. Here's what was wrong, that I could see: the tuners
were the
Fender "F" type; the neck was bound and had rectangular MOP fret markers; the
neck plate
also was the Fender "F" type; I checked the serial number (don't remember the
prefix, but
it wasn't an "L" model); the sunburst paint job did appear to be nitro lacquer,
there was a
lot of checking but little heavy wear, even less on the neck, which was almost
flawless with
good frets.
Okay, now the quiz: based on this very limited info, what era would you place
this Jag? Is
there any possibility of it being a '65? And, what would it likely be valued at
in a decent
store where they know something about vintage Fender instruments?
Gavin

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Jacob Dobner (jacobdobner) - 15 Jun 2005 23:09:04

I have heard of '65 Jaguars having the F tuners and not having the L
series on the serial number. I think this was a transition era.
--- In , "Gavin Ehringer"
<gavinehringer@e...> wrote:
> Went to the Guitar Center just to kill some time. Saw a Jaguar on
the wall, something I've
> never seen there before!
>
> Asked to play it. It said 1965 Jaguar on the hang tag, price $2,599.
But oh boy!, but it was
> nice. But not a '65, IMHO. Here's what was wrong, that I could see:
the tuners were the
> Fender "F" type; the neck was bound and had rectangular MOP fret
markers; the neck plate
> also was the Fender "F" type; I checked the serial number (don't
remember the prefix, but
> it wasn't an "L" model); the sunburst paint job did appear to be
nitro lacquer, there was a
> lot of checking but little heavy wear, even less on the neck, which
was almost flawless with
> good frets.
>
> Okay, now the quiz: based on this very limited info, what era would
you place this Jag? Is
> there any possibility of it being a '65? And, what would it likely
be valued at in a decent
> store where they know something about vintage Fender instruments?
>
> Gavin

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reverbmike1127 - 16 Jun 2005 01:20:42

My guess would be a 1966 model...I gave $1800.00 for a killer "68 model
exactly as you describe. It was locked away in its case for a long time and is
almost perfect.
reverbmike
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Casey Cash (surfgitar) - 20 Jun 2005 20:51:52

Gavin,
My reference says the earliest "F" serial # series were made in
1965, as were the last of the "L" series - the other details you gave
may date this as a later model, I don't know. According to the 2005
"Vintage Guitar Price Guide", a '68 model, sunbust, in excellent
condition is worth between $1400-1850. A '65 model, $1900 -2100. Casey
--- In , "Gavin Ehringer"
<gavinehringer@e...> wrote:
> Went to the Guitar Center just to kill some time. Saw a Jaguar on
the wall, something I've
> never seen there before!
>
> Asked to play it. It said 1965 Jaguar on the hang tag, price $2,599.
But oh boy!, but it was
> nice. But not a '65, IMHO. Here's what was wrong, that I could see:
the tuners were the
> Fender "F" type; the neck was bound and had rectangular MOP fret
markers; the neck plate
> also was the Fender "F" type; I checked the serial number (don't
remember the prefix, but
> it wasn't an "L" model); the sunburst paint job did appear to be
nitro lacquer, there was a
> lot of checking but little heavy wear, even less on the neck, which
was almost flawless with
> good frets.
>
> Okay, now the quiz: based on this very limited info, what era would
you place this Jag? Is
> there any possibility of it being a '65? And, what would it likely
be valued at in a decent
> store where they know something about vintage Fender instruments?
>
> Gavin

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bruce duncan (wetreverb) - 20 Jun 2005 21:38:33

When Fender went to the "F" series, there was a transition period of about a
year that they were making the Jag and J/M necks with binding, and dot markers.
I've seen countless original 1965-66 Jags and J/M's that had dot markers on
bound necks. As far as I've been able to determine, the first bound necks came
in in late '66, and several of my rare guitar sources have told me that they
consider the earliest "Bound-Neck/Block-Marker" offset body models to have been
early production 1967's that happened to be on sale in late 1966.
Bruce D
Casey Cash <> wrote:
Gavin,
My reference says the earliest "F" serial # series were made in
1965, as were the last of the "L" series - the other details you gave
may date this as a later model, I don't know. According to the 2005
"Vintage Guitar Price Guide", a '68 model, sunbust, in excellent
condition is worth between $1400-1850. A '65 model, $1900 -2100. Casey
--- In , "Gavin Ehringer"
<gavinehringer@e...> wrote:
> Went to the Guitar Center just to kill some time. Saw a Jaguar on
the wall, something I've
> never seen there before!
>
> Asked to play it. It said 1965 Jaguar on the hang tag, price $2,599.
But oh boy!, but it was
> nice. But not a '65, IMHO. Here's what was wrong, that I could see:
the tuners were the
> Fender "F" type; the neck was bound and had rectangular MOP fret
markers; the neck plate
> also was the Fender "F" type; I checked the serial number (don't
remember the prefix, but
> it wasn't an "L" model); the sunburst paint job did appear to be
nitro lacquer, there was a
> lot of checking but little heavy wear, even less on the neck, which
was almost flawless with
> good frets.
>
> Okay, now the quiz: based on this very limited info, what era would
you place this Jag? Is
> there any possibility of it being a '65? And, what would it likely
be valued at in a decent
> store where they know something about vintage Fender instruments?
>
> Gavin
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