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Phil wrote:
"Not understanding how it was originally played also> adds
to the mix. Did the guitarist tune down (Rand
Holden) making it seem that "Everybody up" must be
between E and F, and sounding wrong in both. Was the
record mastered sped up for excitement (more common
than you might think - "Five Live Yardbirds for
instance).
Musicians in bands did not use/have tuning pedals -
they relied on their ears and tuned to each other.
Here you are all tuned up to an actual standard and
you're having trouble figuring chords and notes that
were played in a different tuning state."
...back in the olden days of LPs and cassette players, I
used to tune my guitar (or bass) to the LP...maybe the LP
was mastered at a different speed, maybe the musicians used
a different reference tone...maybe my record player played
the wrong speed, maybe my cassette tape stretched, on and
on...maybe Dick Dales Dad didn't know how to run his tape
machine properly during "Surf Beat"...etcetera...
for years, I used the "dial tone" (A=440) of the telehone
as my "reference A-tone"...but, I soon realized that it
didn't always match the recorded versions I was atempting
to learn.
so I would tune to each LP...and sometimes I'd have to
re-tune when trying another track on the same album.
-dp
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Many recording artists had the pitch changed in mixing and mastering, to tweak
the tempo up just a bit. This was very prevalent on early Ventures recordings.
When I was able to buy a turntable with adjustable pitch, it solved many
problems, such as having to returne my guitar from song to song! I'd simply
adjust the turntable's pitch until it was in tune with my guitar, and then dupe
the record onto cassette. This saved untold time when I'd want to plug in and
play along with the songs I wanted to learn. Many of the old Stereo recordings
channeled virtually all the lead guitar to one side or the other, allowing me to
rig the audio cables so that the cassette ended up being primarily of the rhythm
section, or primarily the lead, so I could refine my technique on both lead and
rhythm guitar, in effect, a DIY karaoke for guitar!
Bruce D
DP <> wrote:
Phil wrote:
"Not understanding how it was originally played also> adds
to the mix. Did the guitarist tune down (Rand
Holden) making it seem that "Everybody up" must be
between E and F, and sounding wrong in both. Was the
record mastered sped up for excitement (more common
than you might think - "Five Live Yardbirds for
instance).
Musicians in bands did not use/have tuning pedals -
they relied on their ears and tuned to each other.
Here you are all tuned up to an actual standard and
you're having trouble figuring chords and notes that
were played in a different tuning state."
...back in the olden days of LPs and cassette players, I
used to tune my guitar (or bass) to the LP...maybe the LP
was mastered at a different speed, maybe the musicians used
a different reference tone...maybe my record player played
the wrong speed, maybe my cassette tape stretched, on and
on...maybe Dick Dales Dad didn't know how to run his tape
machine properly during "Surf Beat"...etcetera...
for years, I used the "dial tone" (A=440) of the telehone
as my "reference A-tone"...but, I soon realized that it
didn't always match the recorded versions I was atempting
to learn.
so I would tune to each LP...and sometimes I'd have to
re-tune when trying another track on the same album.
-dp
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