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The day the reverb died

Richard (errant_jedi) - 18 May 2005 18:42:15

In the last few days that I've really started hitting
the reverb hard again I've noticed something
unsettling...like, no reverb. The reverb on my
Vibrosonic used to sometimes cut in and out, but only
after I'd let the amp sit dormant for a while. Well,
I would fire the amp up every day while I was on
guitar hiatus to keep that from happening but I guess
it didn't work. When I turn the reverb knob up and
down the hum rises and falls, but there's pretty much
no reverb. Anybody got any ideas?
Richard
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surfgitar - 18 May 2005 22:18:34

Richard,
I can tell you what happened to my 66 Super Reverb. For a year or
2 the reverb would come and go; sometimes playing a loud chord would
bring it back. It also seemed that once it was working it would
continue if played regularly. As time went on it cut out more and
more. Anyway, I toook the reverb unit apart and discovered that one of
the very small wires that connected the signal from the spring to the
output had come loose. Couldn't figure out how to reconnect it
properly and ended up just buying a replacement, which works fine.
It might be worth to take a look inside. Casey
--- In , Richard <errant_jedi@y...> wrote:
>
> In the last few days that I've really started hitting
> the reverb hard again I've noticed something
> unsettling...like, no reverb. The reverb on my
> Vibrosonic used to sometimes cut in and out, but only
> after I'd let the amp sit dormant for a while. Well,
> I would fire the amp up every day while I was on
> guitar hiatus to keep that from happening but I guess
> it didn't work. When I turn the reverb knob up and
> down the hum rises and falls, but there's pretty much
> no reverb. Anybody got any ideas?
>
> Richard
>
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reventlos - 19 May 2005 04:39:03

>Anybody got any ideas?
There's only about three things that can go wrong, and they're all
pretty easy to fix (even a knucklehead like me has fixed all three).
Do the obvious stuff first, like sticking a new tube in the reverb
driver and swapping out the cables connecting the pan. Next, as Casey
mentioned, check the wires on the inside of the pan that connect to the
jacks (if it hums, this is likely the problem). Next, if you have a
voltmeter, check those tiny transformers inside the pan on each end.
These are actually replaceable if bad, but seems lots easier just to
replace the whole tank, unless it's a vintage unit that you want to
keep intact. Worst case scenario is that it's the small transformer on
the chassis. Had to replace one in a Vibrolux Reverb recently---cost
about $30 and was no big deal to do (and I ain't no amp tech). Good
luck.
More reverb, Matt Q.

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loscobrassurf - 19 May 2005 07:29:25

Play heavy metal ?
--- In , Richard <errant_jedi@y...>
wrote:
>
> In the last few days that I've really started hitting
> the reverb hard again I've noticed something
> unsettling...like, no reverb. The reverb on my
> Vibrosonic used to sometimes cut in and out, but only
> after I'd let the amp sit dormant for a while. Well,
> I would fire the amp up every day while I was on
> guitar hiatus to keep that from happening but I guess
> it didn't work. When I turn the reverb knob up and
> down the hum rises and falls, but there's pretty much
> no reverb. Anybody got any ideas?
>
> Richard
>
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Richard (errant_jedi) - 19 May 2005 07:45:28

--- loscobrassurf <> wrote:
> Play heavy metal ?
LOL! Yes, that's it!
I'll check all those things out, thanks guys. I've
never done much poking around on the inside of an amp
(at all) so this is gonna be a pretty new experience.
I guess I can't break anything without trying...
Richard
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-=Dan Ware=- (reverbtank2002) - 19 May 2005 12:27:52

Yup. I know exactly what's wrong. It's made by Fender. It's shit.
Nah man, I'm just kidding. Sounds like the thingy in the hoozywhatzee isn't
making contact. Is that a Custom Shop Vibrasonic? Mid-90's? Blackface?
You should be using an outboard reverb tank anyway. This is God sending you
hints...
And for those who don't know:
DO NOT USE BOTH YOUR ONBOARD REVERB -=AND=- YOUR OUTBOARD REVERB AT THE SAME
TIME. YOUR DRIP WILL TURN INTO MUD. TURN OFF YOUR ONBOARD.
That is all.
-Dano
----Original Message Follows----
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Subject: [SurfGuitar101] The day the reverb died
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:42:15 -0700 (PDT)
In the last few days that I've really started hitting
the reverb hard again I've noticed something
unsettling...like, no reverb. The reverb on my
Vibrosonic used to sometimes cut in and out, but only
after I'd let the amp sit dormant for a while. Well,
I would fire the amp up every day while I was on
guitar hiatus to keep that from happening but I guess
it didn't work. When I turn the reverb knob up and
down the hum rises and falls, but there's pretty much
no reverb. Anybody got any ideas?
Richard
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Richard (errant_jedi) - 19 May 2005 13:40:47

It's a Silverface. After finding out about the Custom
Shop Vibrasonic and seeing the money they went for I
seriously thought about trading my Vibro in for the CS
Vibrasonic, but I was told by people on the FDP amp
forum not to so I didn't.
My first thought was to actually finally go for a tank
but the problem is that I want a black tank, which
seem kind of hard to come by. There aren't any up on
eBay that aren't crazy vintage. You can't buy them
new on MF anymore either, which sucks. I also thought
about just getting a Digitech pedal.
Richard
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Chris (kahunatikiman) - 19 May 2005 14:20:44

--- In , Richard <errant_jedi@y...> wrote:
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>
> My first thought was to actually finally go for a tank
> but the problem is that I want a black tank, which
> seem kind of hard to come by. There aren't any up on
> eBay that aren't crazy vintage. You can't buy them
> new on MF anymore either, which sucks. > Richard
You could buy a re-issue brown tank on e-bay, then go over to Vibro
World www.vibroworld.com and get a new cabinet for it in any color you
want. sometimes they have black cabinets sorta cheap.. Their cabs
are good quality too.
Chris
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supertwangreverb - 19 May 2005 17:22:21

> My first thought was to actually finally go for a tank
> but the problem is that I want a black tank, which
> seem kind of hard to come by. There aren't any up on
> eBay that aren't crazy vintage. You can't buy them
> new on MF anymore either, which sucks. I also thought
> about just getting a Digitech pedal.
>
Richard,
Like this sweet little '64?
She's 41 years old(still looks 18). Measurments 10" x 19" x 7½",
and weighs 16 lbs. Likes long walks on the beach, she likes cabernet
sauvignon, and has been known to loss herself after a glass or
two.
Her brush with fame was having Leo wink at her on his way out of
Fender.

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tfj (toofastjim) - 19 May 2005 18:19:05

I've become increasingly fond of the Guyatone reverb tanks after
simultaneously being exposed to two of them at very close range over the
last few weeks. They are full sounding, powerful, wet and most important of
all - consistent. Not sure where to get them or how much they cost, but
they seem to be solidly built and they do come in black!
----- Original Message -----
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> My first thought was to actually finally go for a tank
> but the problem is that I want a black tank, which
> seem kind of hard to come by. There aren't any up on
> eBay that aren't crazy vintage. You can't buy them
> new on MF anymore either, which sucks. I also thought
> about just getting a Digitech pedal.
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> Richard
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Gavin Ehringer (windanseabeachboy) - 19 May 2005 18:56:28

Musician's Friend sells the Guyatone 3000 tube reverb for $449 - about $50 more
than a
Fender '63 Reissue. Have not seen them any cheaper, anywhere else.
G
--- In , "tfj" <toofastjim@m...> wrote:
> I've become increasingly fond of the Guyatone reverb tanks after
> simultaneously being exposed to two of them at very close range over the
> last few weeks. They are full sounding, powerful, wet and most important of
> all - consistent. Not sure where to get them or how much they cost, but
> they seem to be solidly built and they do come in black!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard" <errant_jedi@y...>
>
> >
> > My first thought was to actually finally go for a tank
> > but the problem is that I want a black tank, which
> > seem kind of hard to come by. There aren't any up on
> > eBay that aren't crazy vintage. You can't buy them
> > new on MF anymore either, which sucks. I also thought
> > about just getting a Digitech pedal.
> >
> > Richard
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Dick Messick (flatwound01) - 19 May 2005 19:58:41

The Guyatone tanks are pretty cool - not only do they come in black, but
they come with NOS tubes, too! I heard the Nebulas play through them a few
weeks ago - nice n' wet!
-Dick
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Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] The day the reverb died
> I've become increasingly fond of the Guyatone reverb tanks after
> simultaneously being exposed to two of them at very close range over the
> last few weeks. They are full sounding, powerful, wet and most important
> of
> all - consistent. Not sure where to get them or how much they cost, but
> they seem to be solidly built and they do come in black!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard" <>
>
>>
>> My first thought was to actually finally go for a tank
>> but the problem is that I want a black tank, which
>> seem kind of hard to come by. There aren't any up on
>> eBay that aren't crazy vintage. You can't buy them
>> new on MF anymore either, which sucks. I also thought
>> about just getting a Digitech pedal.
>>
>> Richard
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red_thundr - 19 May 2005 20:18:41

Oh yeah... just goes to prove that vintage doesn't always equal
better. Gonna have to try that Guyatone now! I'm hip to anything
that sounds good.
If I only had more time, I'd love to study the circuits and vastly
improve them. Back then, there was little concept of audiophile
sound: the engineers were using old technology and their analysis
tools were only their ears. It'd be great to sit down with my buddy
(an MSEE), and just improve the tone circuits for greater control,
"warmth", and far less noise. While there will always be naysayers
whose minds are locked into the "vintage" trap, I think there is
plenty of room for improvement and refinement. The original designers
set up a decent enough standard, but it's high time to pass on the
torch and take it to the next level.
--- In , "Dick Messick" <rmessick2@c...>
wrote:
> The Guyatone tanks are pretty cool - not only do they come in black,
but
> they come with NOS tubes, too! I heard the Nebulas play through
them a few
> weeks ago - nice n' wet!
>
> -Dick
>
>
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> From: "tfj" <toofastjim@m...>
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> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] The day the reverb died
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> > I've become increasingly fond of the Guyatone reverb tanks after
> > simultaneously being exposed to two of them at very close range
over the
> > last few weeks. They are full sounding, powerful, wet and most
important
> > of
> > all - consistent. Not sure where to get them or how much they
cost, but
> > they seem to be solidly built and they do come in black!
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard" <errant_jedi@y...>
> >
> >>
> >> My first thought was to actually finally go for a tank
> >> but the problem is that I want a black tank, which
> >> seem kind of hard to come by. There aren't any up on
> >> eBay that aren't crazy vintage. You can't buy them
> >> new on MF anymore either, which sucks. I also thought
> >> about just getting a Digitech pedal.
> >>
> >> Richard
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mono_tones_1 - 20 May 2005 09:50:56

--- In , "Chris" <chris@b...> wrote:
> You could buy a re-issue brown tank on e-bay, then go over to Vibro
> World www.vibroworld.com and get a new cabinet for it in any color
you
> want. sometimes they have black cabinets sorta cheap.. Their cabs
> are good quality too.
>
> Chris
cheaper yet would be to just retolex it and slap on new grillcloth
cheap 'n easy

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