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Carl's tremolo effect?

obmosquito - 13 May 2005 15:34:02

Listen to the little guitar breaks in "I get around" by the BBs.
Is that tremolo-like sound a guitar effect or is it just the fact that the
guitar is playing the
same notes as the organ?
It seems that I've heard Richie Podolor use the same effect before on some
Superstocks
tunes (can't think of which ones at the moment).
Anyway, it's a cool effect and I'm just curious. Anybody know?
-Paul

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spskins - 13 May 2005 16:42:37

I always hesitate to answer these things, since I'm a lowly drummer,
but I think what you're hearing is the revolving Leslie speaker that
the organ is going through.
(Copied and Pasted): Named after it's ingenious inventor, Don Leslie.
While working on 3-D movies, he wanted a way to make the soundtrack
more three dimensional. Hammond had developed a rotating drum speaker,
but Leslie really developed and perfected it.
Leslie did this by splitting the audio input in two. Sending the high
frequencies to a tweeter speaker and the low frequencies to the woofer
speaker. Both speakers in turn blast into a rotating horn. These two
horns are hooked to two-speed electric motors that rotate the horns in
opposite directions. The sound is sprayed around a 360 degree circle
giving the organ a tremolo effect. There is a slow speed and a fast
speed with a switch on the organ that the player can use to make the
speed change.
If you listen closely, Carl's guitar has the same tone as it does
during the rest of the song. However, you are onto something as Carl
(or Barney Kessel, or Glen Campbell, or Tommy Tedesco, or Billy
Strange, or Jerry Cole, etc...) or whoever was playing guitar that day
in the studio) played guitar through a Leslie on more than a couple BB
songs. Check out the awesome "Let's Go Away For Awhile" instrumental
from Pet Sounds for some of it. It's a very cool sound even though
Ivan P. doesn't care for it. As far Richie Podolor and the Superstocks
go (the closest I could think of was "Balboa Island")- I think he used
some actual tremolo, it doesn't sound like a Leslie.
Now all you real guitar players can rip me apart.
-Ted Pilgrim
PS (Shameless plug) To hear another example of a guitar played through
a Leslie, check out "Rangoon" off of Creature Feature by Satan's
Pilgrims.
--- In , "obmosquito" <obmosquito@c...>
wrote:
> Listen to the little guitar breaks in "I get around" by the BBs.
> Is that tremolo-like sound a guitar effect or is it just the fact
that the guitar is playing the
> same notes as the organ?
>
> It seems that I've heard Richie Podolor use the same effect before
on some Superstocks
> tunes (can't think of which ones at the moment).
>
> Anyway, it's a cool effect and I'm just curious. Anybody know?
>
> -Paul

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obmosquito - 13 May 2005 16:56:20

Actually, I kinda figured it might be a Leslie.
I'll have to dig up some of my Superstocks stuff, cause I swear I've heard
Podolor use it
before too.
Thanks Ted.
--- In , "spskins" <superchimp9@h...> wrote:
> I always hesitate to answer these things, since I'm a lowly drummer,
> but I think what you're hearing is the revolving Leslie speaker that
> the organ is going through.
>
> (Copied and Pasted): Named after it's ingenious inventor, Don Leslie.
> While working on 3-D movies, he wanted a way to make the soundtrack
> more three dimensional. Hammond had developed a rotating drum speaker,
> but Leslie really developed and perfected it.
>
> Leslie did this by splitting the audio input in two. Sending the high
> frequencies to a tweeter speaker and the low frequencies to the woofer
> speaker. Both speakers in turn blast into a rotating horn. These two
> horns are hooked to two-speed electric motors that rotate the horns in
> opposite directions. The sound is sprayed around a 360 degree circle
> giving the organ a tremolo effect. There is a slow speed and a fast
> speed with a switch on the organ that the player can use to make the
> speed change.
>
> If you listen closely, Carl's guitar has the same tone as it does
> during the rest of the song. However, you are onto something as Carl
> (or Barney Kessel, or Glen Campbell, or Tommy Tedesco, or Billy
> Strange, or Jerry Cole, etc...) or whoever was playing guitar that day
> in the studio) played guitar through a Leslie on more than a couple BB
> songs. Check out the awesome "Let's Go Away For Awhile" instrumental
> from Pet Sounds for some of it. It's a very cool sound even though
> Ivan P. doesn't care for it. As far Richie Podolor and the Superstocks
> go (the closest I could think of was "Balboa Island")- I think he used
> some actual tremolo, it doesn't sound like a Leslie.
>
> Now all you real guitar players can rip me apart.
> -Ted Pilgrim
>
> PS (Shameless plug) To hear another example of a guitar played through
> a Leslie, check out "Rangoon" off of Creature Feature by Satan's
> Pilgrims.
>
> --- In , "obmosquito" <obmosquito@c...>
> wrote:
> > Listen to the little guitar breaks in "I get around" by the BBs.
> > Is that tremolo-like sound a guitar effect or is it just the fact
> that the guitar is playing the
> > same notes as the organ?
> >
> > It seems that I've heard Richie Podolor use the same effect before
> on some Superstocks
> > tunes (can't think of which ones at the moment).
> >
> > Anyway, it's a cool effect and I'm just curious. Anybody know?
> >
> > -Paul

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ipongrac - 16 May 2005 22:43:22

--- In , "spskins" <superchimp9@h...>
wrote:
> However, you are onto something as Carl
> played guitar through a Leslie on more than a couple BB
> songs. Check out the awesome "Let's Go Away For Awhile" instrumental
> from Pet Sounds for some of it. It's a very cool sound even though
> Ivan P. doesn't care for it.
Hey, what'd I do?? I think in a previous post I was actually saying
I didn't like the Leslie guitar sound specifically on the later
Challengers recordings. But in no way did I mean to imply that I
NEVER like the Leslie effect (though Let's Go Away For a While would
also qualify as not sounding very good to my ears). I very much like
a lot of the use of it by the Beach Boys and especially by the
Beatles. I think Harrison was able to coax some awesome tones out of
that thing. Badge by Cream also has some incredible Leslie sounds...
But who cares what I think? Quite honestly, I really haven't given
the Leslie that much thought...
I like Rangoon quite a bit, though! For whatever it's worth....
Ivan

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spskins - 17 May 2005 08:32:46

--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
> --- In , "spskins" <superchimp9@h...>
> wrote:
> > However, you are onto something as Carl
> > played guitar through a Leslie on more than a couple BB
> > songs. Check out the awesome "Let's Go Away For Awhile" instrumental
> > from Pet Sounds for some of it. It's a very cool sound even though
> > Ivan P. doesn't care for it.
Hey Ivan! I should've followed with a ;). Just teasin' to see if you
were out there. Never take a drummer seriously.
Respectfully,
Ted Pilgrim
>
> Hey, what'd I do?? I think in a previous post I was actually saying
> I didn't like the Leslie guitar sound specifically on the later
> Challengers recordings. But in no way did I mean to imply that I
> NEVER like the Leslie effect (though Let's Go Away For a While would
> also qualify as not sounding very good to my ears). I very much like
> a lot of the use of it by the Beach Boys and especially by the
> Beatles. I think Harrison was able to coax some awesome tones out of
> that thing. Badge by Cream also has some incredible Leslie sounds...
>
> But who cares what I think? Quite honestly, I really haven't given
> the Leslie that much thought...
>
> I like Rangoon quite a bit, though! For whatever it's worth....
>
> Ivan

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