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I'm wondering, who or what influenced the original surf-instrumental guitarists?
Where did they draw their inspiration from? Or did they come up with the genre
all on their own?
Cheers
Dan
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--- In , Dan Bartley <bigtwangguy@y...>
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> I'm wondering, who or what influenced the original surf-instrumental
guitarists? Where did they draw their inspiration from? Or did they
come up with the genre all on their own?
> Cheers
> Dan
Good question. I remember reading a post from Paul Johnson years ago
on Cowabunga, and he cited Duane Eddy, The Ventures, Link Wray, The
Fireballs, and.....those guys that did Red River
Rock....ummmm...Johnny & The Hurricanes! (The Bomboras covered that
song too, I think).
I am sure the original surf guys drew from a lot of different sources
as you can hear all kinds of influences in surf: latin,
middle-eastern, rock-n-roll, etc...
BN
I think the surfers themselves had alot to do with the influence, and reverb
for guitar, accidently got discovered at the right time.
Lots of variables, but I think they took that drippy sound and ran with it.
There's my two cents.
Billy
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Budweiser in a steel can, of course. I'm sure they were all under
the influence, havin' a stomp around a beach fire. Ok, rewind the
Giget movie.
Didn't many of the drummers have a jazz background?
- Bill M.
--- In , "Brian Neal" <bgneal@g...>
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> --- In , Dan Bartley
<bigtwangguy@y...>
> wrote:
> > I'm wondering, who or what influenced the original surf-
instrumental
> guitarists? Where did they draw their inspiration from? Or did they
> come up with the genre all on their own?
> > Cheers
> > Dan
>
> Good question. I remember reading a post from Paul Johnson years
ago
> on Cowabunga, and he cited Duane Eddy, The Ventures, Link Wray, The
> Fireballs, and.....those guys that did Red River
> Rock....ummmm...Johnny & The Hurricanes! (The Bomboras covered that
> song too, I think).
>
> I am sure the original surf guys drew from a lot of different
sources
> as you can hear all kinds of influences in surf: latin,
> middle-eastern, rock-n-roll, etc...
>
> BN
I think they were influenced too by a lot of russian/middle
eastern/arabian tunes. Didn`t the Miserlou melody line based on a greek
folk song ? Perhaps you must ask The Invisible Surfers, they are from
Greece. The Surfers also used the typical blues/rock`n`roll scheme for
their songwriting, you know 4 tacts E, 2 tacts A, 2 tacts E, 1 tact H,
1 tact A, 1 tact E.
daniel
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> I'm wondering, who or what influenced the original surf-instrumental
guitarists? Where did they draw their inspiration from? Or did they
come up with the genre all on their own?
> Cheers
> Dan
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Not a folk song. "Miserlou" was written in the
thirties, lyrics added a decade later. There is,
however, a line dance called "The Miserlou."
--- Daniel Kubon <> wrote:
Didn`t the Miserlou melody line based on a greek
folk song ?
daniel
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okay, thanks for the info ! do you know if there exsists a version of
that "original" Miserlou song, perhaps as a mp3 file or so ?! Would
love to hear the pre-Miserlou. What instrumentation is in that version ?
best regards,
daniel
--- In , Phil Dirt <phildirt@r...> wrote:
> Not a folk song. "Miserlou" was written in the
> thirties, lyrics added a decade later. There is,
> however, a line dance called "The Miserlou."
>
> --- Daniel Kubon <fuzznsurf@w...> wrote:
> Didn`t the Miserlou melody line based on a greek
> folk song ?
> daniel
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When I originally posted this question I was strictly thinking of musical
influences. After reading the posts mentioning Buddy Holly I'm now wondering if
the overnight popularity of the Fender Stratocaster influenced the surf
phenomenon as well? I can imagine how young guitarists back then who had learned
guitar on big hollowbodies couldn't wait to get their hands on one of those new
futuristic looking Strats. Plug it into a new wild Fender reverb tank and who
would have cared about vocals? Mere speculation on my part, of course.
Dan
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Where did they draw their inspiration from? Or did they come up with the genre
all on their own?
Cheers
Dan
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>Dan Bartley <> wrote:
>I'm wondering, who or what influenced the original surf-instrumental
>guitarists? Where did they draw their inspiration from? Or did they
come up
>with the genre all on their own?
>Cheers
>Dan
>
Sounds like we're splitting hairs again in the details, but
To me, there's still at least one missing thread of influence and that's
specifically THE BLUES! In particular, the electric blues.
Country twang (incl Buddy Holly strat stylings) gets mentioned a bit,
and that influence may be more of a tonality, style and production
viewpoint(?).
But structurally, many early 1-4-5 Surf tunes and even songs written
today (excluding the Surf beat) is a 12-bar Blues architecture at its
core. Minor key progressions, etc.
BWD
Yes, the Strat had an influence on early surf but it was due to delayed
popularity, not over-night popularity. The Strat didn't really have over-night
popularity. It came out in 1954. Buddy Holly made a splash with it but I think
it was a good two years later that he played it on the Sullivan show. The
Ventures second album from '60 is the best advertisement Fender could have hoped
for. That album had there second big hit, Perfidia and every kid that bought it
then and now can drool at the large cover photo of Don's 50's Strat, Nokie's
Precision Bass and Bob's Jazzmaster.
-Marty
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From: Dan Bartley
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Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] who influenced the influencers?
When I originally posted this question I was strictly thinking of musical
influences. After reading the posts mentioning Buddy Holly I'm now wondering if
the overnight popularity of the Fender Stratocaster influenced the surf
phenomenon as well? I can imagine how young guitarists back then who had learned
guitar on big hollowbodies couldn't wait to get their hands on one of those new
futuristic looking Strats. Plug it into a new wild Fender reverb tank and who
would have cared about vocals? Mere speculation on my part, of course.
Dan
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guitarists? Where did they draw their inspiration from? Or did they come up with
the genre all on their own?
Cheers
Dan
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