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Okay, all you technophobes who don't think it's a worthy guitar unless
made by Fender before 1968, a disclaimer: I drive a '73 Triumph Stag,
eat off a vintage '50s dinette table, and my house is 100 years old.
So I ain't exactly a "new adopter" when it comes to technology. (I
don't even have a cell phone yet!)<p>
But I checked out that new Line 6 modeling guitar, the "VariAx" and
came away thinking it was pretty nifty...and maybe even worth buying.
Sure, I'll keep my Fender Strat, my ES-335, and my tube amp. But I
think it would be neat to have a cheap little guitar that models so
many different classic guitars, even if it only does a half-assed
imitation.<p>I think it would be especially fun if it modeled a Jag,
Jazzmaster, a Danny, Mosrite and an old Ricky. Anybody wanna pick a fight?
Hello,
Hmmmm....I got to agree a bit with you. Yesterday when visiting a
musician friend of mine who plays in professional band, I was shown the
Line 6 guitar EFX, wow nice effects in one small box. Since he does
studio work from time to time, he said it was great to work with and
very time saving (studio time is not very cheap, so you don't want to
mess around with)
He also claims that he can copy sounds from amps like Mesa and Fender
and that it is almost impossible to tell the difference.
I must say it is one of the ugliest looking pieces of equipment I ever
saw, but it works great, so I'm not against it. If I ever make it into a
studio to record some stuff, I think I will use the unit.
I think it's the same with the guitar, Ugly as Hell, but who knows what
sounds may come out of it. After all there is a huge difference in
playing live and recording.
Anyway, so far I have concluded that mixing old tech with new tech
brings interesting results. If I got the chance to test drive the new
Line 6 "wonder" guitar, I certainly will. Buying one is a whole
different story.
I am a big fan of all sorts of Surf music, first and second wave, I like
to play it, and it doesn't matter what material I use as long as I like
the sound, I'm satisfied.
Jerry S. "The Ohmmen"
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From: windanseabeachboy [mailto:]
Sent: dinsdag 24 september 2002 5:55
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Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Luddites, DON"T READ THIS...
Okay, all you technophobes who don't think it's a worthy guitar unless
made by Fender before 1968, a disclaimer: I drive a '73 Triumph Stag,
eat off a vintage '50s dinette table, and my house is 100 years old.
So I ain't exactly a "new adopter" when it comes to technology. (I
don't even have a cell phone yet!)<p>
But I checked out that new Line 6 modeling guitar, the "VariAx" and
came away thinking it was pretty nifty...and maybe even worth buying.
Sure, I'll keep my Fender Strat, my ES-335, and my tube amp. But I
think it would be neat to have a cheap little guitar that models so
many different classic guitars, even if it only does a half-assed
imitation.<p>I think it would be especially fun if it modeled a Jag,
Jazzmaster, a Danny, Mosrite and an old Ricky. Anybody wanna pick a
fight?
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hi,
i agree with both of you, in the end it's the sound that matters, BUT...
as far as sound is concerned, the chain is as strong as the weakest link. we
own a brilliant old philips tube amp, which gives an awesome bass sound. But
do we have a decent bass-mic? NO! soooo, on recording it sounds crap,
whereas the bass plugged straight into our harddiskrecorder, using the
internal digital twin reverb (yeah right) sounds a lot better.... but still,
lisening to the live amp is a different thing.
and for playing live, it's important to feel good. i could go on stage with
brilliant gear dressed in a pink dress with yellow polka dots, and i
wouldn't be able to play well. (or at least as good as i could) The same
goes with instruments. If the digital gear and some ugly Steve Vai Ibanez
(sorry if i offend anyone) give you perfect sound, but if it just 'doesn't
feel right', it will affect your playing. or that's how it works for me
anyway (and always wear your lucky socks!)
on the other hand, i've played in 30 or so small venues and uh, will anyone
be able to tell the difference between an old blackface fender and a line 6,
once it's been through the average crappy P.A.?
(btw, i really don't dislikee the looks of the wonderguitar that much, just
paint a fake pick up on it, and it could pass for a real guitar!)
>From: "Jerry" <>
>Reply-To:
>To: <>
>Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Luddites, DON"T READ THIS...
>Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 08:05:48 +0200
>
>Hello,
>
>Hmmmm....I got to agree a bit with you. Yesterday when visiting a
>musician friend of mine who plays in professional band, I was shown the
>Line 6 guitar EFX, wow nice effects in one small box. Since he does
>studio work from time to time, he said it was great to work with and
>very time saving (studio time is not very cheap, so you don't want to
>mess around with)
>
>He also claims that he can copy sounds from amps like Mesa and Fender
>and that it is almost impossible to tell the difference.
>
>I must say it is one of the ugliest looking pieces of equipment I ever
>saw, but it works great, so I'm not against it. If I ever make it into a
>studio to record some stuff, I think I will use the unit.
>
>I think it's the same with the guitar, Ugly as Hell, but who knows what
>sounds may come out of it. After all there is a huge difference in
>playing live and recording.
>
>Anyway, so far I have concluded that mixing old tech with new tech
>brings interesting results. If I got the chance to test drive the new
>Line 6 "wonder" guitar, I certainly will. Buying one is a whole
>different story.
>
>I am a big fan of all sorts of Surf music, first and second wave, I like
>to play it, and it doesn't matter what material I use as long as I like
>the sound, I'm satisfied.
>
>Jerry S. "The Ohmmen"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: windanseabeachboy [mailto:]
>Sent: dinsdag 24 september 2002 5:55
>To:
>Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Luddites, DON"T READ THIS...
>
>Okay, all you technophobes who don't think it's a worthy guitar unless
>made by Fender before 1968, a disclaimer: I drive a '73 Triumph Stag,
>eat off a vintage '50s dinette table, and my house is 100 years old.
>So I ain't exactly a "new adopter" when it comes to technology. (I
>don't even have a cell phone yet!)<p>
>But I checked out that new Line 6 modeling guitar, the "VariAx" and
>came away thinking it was pretty nifty...and maybe even worth buying.
>Sure, I'll keep my Fender Strat, my ES-335, and my tube amp. But I
>think it would be neat to have a cheap little guitar that models so
>many different classic guitars, even if it only does a half-assed
>imitation.<p>I think it would be especially fun if it modeled a Jag,
>Jazzmaster, a Danny, Mosrite and an old Ricky. Anybody wanna pick a
>fight?
>
>
>
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How do they do that? They must alter the eq and
dynamics digitally. Lets say they have a 16 bit
wordlength how godd will it sound after all the
compression and tonal variation is done in an amp.
effect and mike or the respective simulation (as
offert by companies by line 6 and similar companies)?
The once quite parts (the low bits) in the dry tone
will be blown up to a cold ugly 80s synth sound.
What about latency coming out of your instrument?
Theres nothing you can do about that!
Having a good tone you can identify with will become
more important as your learn to master your
instrument.
How would you indify with a motorbike that changes to
a Honda a the switch of a knob?
KK
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It's only worthy if it was built before Leo sold it! :)
As to the modeling guitar, I have to say my 'slave girl' is a Fernandes
Nomad guitar. It's that goofy little 'elephant' guitar with the built in
amp, and Jag scale. I bought this thing back in '92-'93 I guess, and it's
been through more batteries than a Roto-Vibe (another cool mistress of
mine). Strung fairly light, it's the perfect office/shop guitar for those
hours you seem to spend on hold or waiting on parts to arrive.
Someday, I'll upgrade to the Nomad Deluxe, with the built in Zoom 505 or
whatever effects box. Not exactly a Dual Showman and a fat strung Strat, but
a hell of a lot easier to tote or sneak into the girlfriend's house for some
after-the-lovin' something-to-do-besides-hold-her picking and grinning..
You mention Luddites, how about Lucites? There's also the Pignose guitar,
made from the clear stuff. Also a built in amp and short scale, it sounds
like your typical shitbox Joe Walsh in the 70's sound. Still and all, a good
doughnut spare when you're 14x32's are out of the question.
Robb
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From: "windanseabeachboy" <>
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Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 11:54 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Luddites, DON"T READ THIS...
> Okay, all you technophobes who don't think it's a worthy guitar unless
> made by Fender before 1968, a disclaimer: I drive a '73 Triumph Stag,
> eat off a vintage '50s dinette table, and my house is 100 years old.
> So I ain't exactly a "new adopter" when it comes to technology. (I
> don't even have a cell phone yet!)<p>
> But I checked out that new Line 6 modeling guitar, the "VariAx" and
> came away thinking it was pretty nifty...and maybe even worth buying.
> Sure, I'll keep my Fender Strat, my ES-335, and my tube amp. But I
> think it would be neat to have a cheap little guitar that models so
> many different classic guitars, even if it only does a half-assed
> imitation.<p>I think it would be especially fun if it modeled a Jag,
> Jazzmaster, a Danny, Mosrite and an old Ricky. Anybody wanna pick a fight?
>
>
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