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hollowbody guitars

Dan Bartley (bigtwangguy) - 15 Apr 2005 15:35:32

What is the general concensus in regards to the hollowbody guitar? Does it have
any business being in a surf instro band, more specifically, as the lead?
Thoughts, opinions?
Cheers
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Monty Roach (mont7669) - 15 Apr 2005 15:56:11

If it sounds good to you Dan, who cares what anybody thinks. Go with your
heart and play hard.
Mont
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Jacob Dobner (jacobdobner) - 15 Apr 2005 16:59:35

Man... or Astro-Man? got some really great sounds out of a Gretsch 6120.
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> What is the general concensus in regards to the hollowbody guitar?
Does it have any business being in a surf instro band, more
specifically, as the lead? Thoughts, opinions?
> Cheers
> Dan
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Eric Hutchinson (ehutch247) - 15 Apr 2005 17:49:42

If you check www.guitargeek.com trace reading (EEviac) used primarily
hollowbodies.
Surf in Seattle?
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Marty Tippens (mctippens) - 15 Apr 2005 18:50:49

The best use of hollow bodies in surf I've heard recently is by the Phantom
Riders. Their lead dude uses a Guild.
The guitarist with the Ultras is pictured with an ES-335 on the cover of their
CD.
-Marty
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Man... or Astro-Man? got some really great sounds out of a Gretsch 6120.
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Marty Tippens (mctippens) - 15 Apr 2005 18:53:38

The quick answer is, no, hollow bodies don't belong in surf BUT surf is a subset
of Rock and Roll and Rock and Roll is about breaking rules, therefore someones
gotta use a hollow body in surf now and then. Hollow bodies do fit nicely in the
non-surf instro styles of Duane Eddy.
-Marty
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Subject: [SurfGuitar101] hollowbody guitars
What is the general concensus in regards to the hollowbody guitar? Does it
have any business being in a surf instro band, more specifically, as the lead?
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billyblastoff805 - 15 Apr 2005 22:43:42

Hey man. If Dave Arnson from "The Insects" can get away with playin' a Gibson
SG, I'm sure you'll do just fine with a Hollow body. Just add lots of reverb,
and then after that, add some some more reverb........
B-B-O
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Elizabeth (surf_guitar_lizzy) - 15 Apr 2005 22:51:26

What about hybrid styles, such as surfabilly. I'm one from the school
of thought that hot rod rock, and surf rock can be interchangeable. As
far as hollow bodies in surf rock, not too long ago I was checking out
a book of Ventures tab, at a local music store, and taken aback, just
a bit, to see a couple of pics of the band using hollow body guitars.
Then again, I think The Ventures have more likely used evry sort of
electric 6-string that's ever been made. :)
Liz
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> The quick answer is, no, hollow bodies don't belong in surf BUT surf
is a subset of Rock and Roll and Rock and Roll is about breaking
rules, therefore someones gotta use a hollow body in surf now and
then. Hollow bodies do fit nicely in the non-surf instro styles of
Duane Eddy.
> -Marty

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mono_tones_1 - 16 Apr 2005 03:01:46

the guy from the killer bananazz from holland gets awesome tone from
a hollowbody. Some weird old guitar, don't know the brand. Last time
i saw them he played it thru (i think RI) tank and BF showman, and it
was just killer. you can google 'em and ask him - he's a nice guy.
don't go on the mp3's on their site cause they'dont sound that good
and are nothing like they are live.
doesn't one Bambi Molestor use an epi hollowbody, or is that a semi?
WR
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> What is the general concensus in regards to the hollowbody guitar?
Does it have any business being in a surf instro band, more
specifically, as the lead? Thoughts, opinions?
> Cheers
> Dan
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bruce d (wizzbangg2003) - 16 Apr 2005 03:30:10

Elizabeth, remember that according to Don Wilson, rhythm guitar, The Ventures
are not and have never been a Surf Band. Also, about 1967 Mosrite introduced a
series of thin-hollow-body electrics, and The Ventures made a point to be
photographed with them on record album covers, etc.
This was at the precise point when they were recording albums like "Super
Psychedelics", "The Horse", and "Underground Fire", not ONE of which had
anything particularly surfy on it. Their deal with Mosrite unraveled soon after
this, and by 1970, Wilson was gigging with a humbucker-equipped Gibson SG, Gerry
McGee was playing a Les Paul, and Bob Bogle was playing a Rickenbacher bass,
while The Ventures were recording covers of Santana and Jim Croce.
Elizabeth <> wrote:
What about hybrid styles, such as surfabilly. I'm one from the school
of thought that hot rod rock, and surf rock can be interchangeable. As
far as hollow bodies in surf rock, not too long ago I was checking out
a book of Ventures tab, at a local music store, and taken aback, just
a bit, to see a couple of pics of the band using hollow body guitars.
Then again, I think The Ventures have more likely used evry sort of
electric 6-string that's ever been made. :)
Liz
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> The quick answer is, no, hollow bodies don't belong in surf BUT surf
is a subset of Rock and Roll and Rock and Roll is about breaking
rules, therefore someones gotta use a hollow body in surf now and
then. Hollow bodies do fit nicely in the non-surf instro styles of
Duane Eddy.
> -Marty
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Klas Fjellgren (surfites_64) - 16 Apr 2005 04:13:09

Not surf guitar tone, but I'm using an Epiphone Wildkat for fuzz leads
since my Jaguar comes out weak through the Maestro Fuzz-Tone.
Klas / The Surfites
--- In , Dan Bartley <bigtwangguy@y...>
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> What is the general concensus in regards to the hollowbody guitar?
Does it have any business being in a surf instro band, more
specifically, as the lead? Thoughts, opinions?
> Cheers
> Dan
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ipongrac - 16 Apr 2005 08:27:53

--- In , "mono_tones_1" <rockverb@h...>
wrote:
> doesn't one Bambi Molestor use an epi hollowbody, or is that a semi?
Dalibor was photographed with a semi-hollow Epiphone Casino (or
something like that, a Gibson 335 copy), but he never used it for
recording or live performances. He's strictly a Jazzmaster man.
Ivan

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mono_tones_1 - 16 Apr 2005 09:17:17

that makes perfect sense. Nonetheless, I would have believed he played
at least part of 'that album'(the one with th Epi on the cover) with
that guitar. I used to own one, and I remeber it as having that sorta
dark punchy sound. But I'probably think different if i had that guitar
at hand right now.
I think the casino is entirely hollowbody, the semi - which i used to
have - has another name but i forgot. Still, I have heard good surf
tones come out of a (semi)hollow , but it would for sure not be the no.
1 choice. what's the band with the female guitarplayer's name again, BN
has pics up on SG101.com? that's hollowbody right?
WR
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
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> --- In , "mono_tones_1" <rockverb@h...>
> wrote:
> > doesn't one Bambi Molestor use an epi hollowbody, or is that a semi?
>
> Dalibor was photographed with a semi-hollow Epiphone Casino (or
> something like that, a Gibson 335 copy), but he never used it for
> recording or live performances. He's strictly a Jazzmaster man.
>
> Ivan

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supertwangreverb - 16 Apr 2005 09:49:02

The formula for surf is as follows (single coil pickups + Fender
reverb tank + Fender amp A, B, or C)
A = Dual Showman
B = Showman
C = Bandmaster
IMO as long as any guitar has SINGLE COIL pickups it should work for
surf. Zak Izbinsky of the Treblemakers used a Gretsch Tennesean
with Hilo-tron pickups. So did one of the guys in the Sentinels back
in the 60s.
Bill
--- In , Dan Bartley <bigtwangguy@y...>
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> What is the general concensus in regards to the hollowbody guitar?
Does it have any business being in a surf instro band, more
specifically, as the lead? Thoughts, opinions?
> Cheers
> Dan
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Marty Tippens (mctippens) - 16 Apr 2005 10:04:46

May be you're thinking of the Epi Sheraton that has center block construction
(semi hollow).
-Marty
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From: mono_tones_1
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 7:17 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: hollowbody guitars
that makes perfect sense. Nonetheless, I would have believed he played
at least part of 'that album'(the one with th Epi on the cover) with
that guitar. I used to own one, and I remeber it as having that sorta
dark punchy sound. But I'probably think different if i had that guitar
at hand right now.
I think the casino is entirely hollowbody, the semi - which i used to
have - has another name but i forgot. Still, I have heard good surf
tones come out of a (semi)hollow , but it would for sure not be the no.
1 choice. what's the band with the female guitarplayer's name again, BN
has pics up on SG101.com? that's hollowbody right?
WR
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "mono_tones_1" <rockverb@h...>
> wrote:
> > doesn't one Bambi Molestor use an epi hollowbody, or is that a semi?
>
> Dalibor was photographed with a semi-hollow Epiphone Casino (or
> something like that, a Gibson 335 copy), but he never used it for
> recording or live performances. He's strictly a Jazzmaster man.
>
> Ivan
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Marty Tippens (mctippens) - 16 Apr 2005 10:12:13

I think we've got our Beatle basses switched, Bruce.
In 1970 Bogle was playing a Hofner Bass, the violin style like McCartney used in
the early 60's. McCartney was using the Rick bass in the later '60's through
'70's.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: bruce d
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: hollowbody guitars
Elizabeth, remember that according to Don Wilson, rhythm guitar, The Ventures
are not and have never been a Surf Band. Also, about 1967 Mosrite introduced a
series of thin-hollow-body electrics, and The Ventures made a point to be
photographed with them on record album covers, etc.
This was at the precise point when they were recording albums like "Super
Psychedelics", "The Horse", and "Underground Fire", not ONE of which had
anything particularly surfy on it. Their deal with Mosrite unraveled soon after
this, and by 1970, Wilson was gigging with a humbucker-equipped Gibson SG, Gerry
McGee was playing a Les Paul, and Bob Bogle was playing a Rickenbacher bass,
while The Ventures were recording covers of Santana and Jim Croce.
Elizabeth <> wrote:
What about hybrid styles, such as surfabilly. I'm one from the school
of thought that hot rod rock, and surf rock can be interchangeable. As
far as hollow bodies in surf rock, not too long ago I was checking out
a book of Ventures tab, at a local music store, and taken aback, just
a bit, to see a couple of pics of the band using hollow body guitars.
Then again, I think The Ventures have more likely used evry sort of
electric 6-string that's ever been made. :)
Liz
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> The quick answer is, no, hollow bodies don't belong in surf BUT surf
is a subset of Rock and Roll and Rock and Roll is about breaking
rules, therefore someones gotta use a hollow body in surf now and
then. Hollow bodies do fit nicely in the non-surf instro styles of
Duane Eddy.
> -Marty
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bruce d (wizzbangg2003) - 16 Apr 2005 12:01:20

Marty -
I stand corrected. You are 100% right - I saw several photos of The Ventures
performing circa 1970-71 and Bogle was playing a Hofner. He switched to the
Rick, (I've seen photos!), in the late '70's before coming back to the Fender
Bass, in the early 1980's.
Bruce D
Marty Tippens <> wrote:
I think we've got our Beatle basses switched, Bruce.
In 1970 Bogle was playing a Hofner Bass, the violin style like McCartney used in
the early 60's. McCartney was using the Rick bass in the later '60's through
'70's.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: bruce d
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: hollowbody guitars
Elizabeth, remember that according to Don Wilson, rhythm guitar, The Ventures
are not and have never been a Surf Band. Also, about 1967 Mosrite introduced a
series of thin-hollow-body electrics, and The Ventures made a point to be
photographed with them on record album covers, etc.
This was at the precise point when they were recording albums like "Super
Psychedelics", "The Horse", and "Underground Fire", not ONE of which had
anything particularly surfy on it. Their deal with Mosrite unraveled soon after
this, and by 1970, Wilson was gigging with a humbucker-equipped Gibson SG, Gerry
McGee was playing a Les Paul, and Bob Bogle was playing a Rickenbacher bass,
while The Ventures were recording covers of Santana and Jim Croce.
Elizabeth <> wrote:
What about hybrid styles, such as surfabilly. I'm one from the school
of thought that hot rod rock, and surf rock can be interchangeable. As
far as hollow bodies in surf rock, not too long ago I was checking out
a book of Ventures tab, at a local music store, and taken aback, just
a bit, to see a couple of pics of the band using hollow body guitars.
Then again, I think The Ventures have more likely used evry sort of
electric 6-string that's ever been made. :)
Liz
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> The quick answer is, no, hollow bodies don't belong in surf BUT surf
is a subset of Rock and Roll and Rock and Roll is about breaking
rules, therefore someones gotta use a hollow body in surf now and
then. Hollow bodies do fit nicely in the non-surf instro styles of
Duane Eddy.
> -Marty
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Elizabeth (surf_guitar_lizzy) - 16 Apr 2005 18:05:56

I just get confused, sometimes, Bruce. The Ventures were/are more of a
pop band, than a surf band, I guess the same as with Jan & Dean or The
Beach Boys. Sure, they did a lot of good hot roddin' and surfin'
tunes, but they also did a lot of stuff outside of those sub-genres. I
guess I should've remembered one of my Ventures double-CDs, on which
there's their cover of "Green Onions," before I talked about 'em as a
surf band.
Liz
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Marty Tippens (mctippens) - 16 Apr 2005 18:50:07

Nope, no Rick for Bob even in the late '70's, Bruce. But take that as a friendly
challenge. I'd welcome the knowledge if you can prove me wrong.
-Marty
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From: bruce d
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: hollowbody guitars
Marty -
I stand corrected. You are 100% right - I saw several photos of The Ventures
performing circa 1970-71 and Bogle was playing a Hofner. He switched to the
Rick, (I've seen photos!), in the late '70's before coming back to the Fender
Bass, in the early 1980's.
Bruce D
Marty Tippens <> wrote:
I think we've got our Beatle basses switched, Bruce.
In 1970 Bogle was playing a Hofner Bass, the violin style like McCartney used
in the early 60's. McCartney was using the Rick bass in the later '60's through
'70's.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: bruce d
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: hollowbody guitars
Elizabeth, remember that according to Don Wilson, rhythm guitar, The
Ventures are not and have never been a Surf Band. Also, about 1967 Mosrite
introduced a series of thin-hollow-body electrics, and The Ventures made a point
to be photographed with them on record album covers, etc.
This was at the precise point when they were recording albums like "Super
Psychedelics", "The Horse", and "Underground Fire", not ONE of which had
anything particularly surfy on it. Their deal with Mosrite unraveled soon after
this, and by 1970, Wilson was gigging with a humbucker-equipped Gibson SG, Gerry
McGee was playing a Les Paul, and Bob Bogle was playing a Rickenbacher bass,
while The Ventures were recording covers of Santana and Jim Croce.
Elizabeth <> wrote:
What about hybrid styles, such as surfabilly. I'm one from the school
of thought that hot rod rock, and surf rock can be interchangeable. As
far as hollow bodies in surf rock, not too long ago I was checking out
a book of Ventures tab, at a local music store, and taken aback, just
a bit, to see a couple of pics of the band using hollow body guitars.
Then again, I think The Ventures have more likely used evry sort of
electric 6-string that's ever been made. :)
Liz
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> The quick answer is, no, hollow bodies don't belong in surf BUT surf
is a subset of Rock and Roll and Rock and Roll is about breaking
rules, therefore someones gotta use a hollow body in surf now and
then. Hollow bodies do fit nicely in the non-surf instro styles of
Duane Eddy.
> -Marty
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bruce d (wizzbangg2003) - 16 Apr 2005 20:29:29

Hey, Elizabeth -
The reason it's easy to get confused about The Ventures, is, I'm afraid, The
Ventures themselves! While denying being a surf band, Titles of CD's released
in the last decade include: "Surfin'", "The Ventures Play the Greatest Surf
Hits", "New Depths", "Surfin' To Baja", etc, etc. So, don't feel at all
apologetic for being confused!
The best description of The Ventures, is one of the most sucessful Instrumental
Cover Bands of all time, who happen, at times, to perform Surf Music, in their
own not-very-surfy style. They're still one of my all-time favorite bands, and
a major influence on me.
Bruce D.
Elizabeth <> wrote:
I just get confused, sometimes, Bruce. The Ventures were/are more of a
pop band, than a surf band, I guess the same as with Jan & Dean or The
Beach Boys. Sure, they did a lot of good hot roddin' and surfin'
tunes, but they also did a lot of stuff outside of those sub-genres. I
guess I should've remembered one of my Ventures double-CDs, on which
there's their cover of "Green Onions," before I talked about 'em as a
surf band.
Liz
--- In , bruce d <wizzbangg2003@y...> wrote:
> Elizabeth, remember that according to Don Wilson, rhythm guitar, The
Ventures are not and have never been a Surf Band.
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