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Awhile ago I remember there being hot debate and discussion over the
Danelectro Spring King. The general concensus on that seemed to point
to it being a total piece of junk. Just recently I was flipping through
the march '05 guitar player magazine and saw a review for a similar
product called the vanamps reverbamate. Has anyone used one of these?
They look to be better quality (tweed instead of plastic) and the
review was good. However I rarely trust a magazine.
On Sunday, April 10, 2005, at 02:50 PM, Ian wrote:
>
> Just recently I was flipping through
> the march '05 guitar player magazine and saw a review for a similar
> product called the vanamps reverbamate. Has anyone used one of these?
> They look to be better quality (tweed instead of plastic) and the
> review was good. However I rarely trust a magazine.
Just looked them up thru google:
Looks like a pretty nice unit. Costs more than a spring King, obviously.
-c*
The Vanamp was discussed a month or two ago on this list. The reviews
say it gives depth of reverb equivalent to what we hear out the Twin
Reverb but not the depth we hear out of a Fender tank.
-Marty
--- In , Chris Sutor <Christophert@s...>
wrote:
>
> On Sunday, April 10, 2005, at 02:50 PM, Ian wrote:
>
> >
> > Just recently I was flipping through
> > the march '05 guitar player magazine and saw a review for a
similar
> > product called the vanamps reverbamate. Has anyone used one of
these?
> > They look to be better quality (tweed instead of plastic) and the
> > review was good. However I rarely trust a magazine.
>
>
> Just looked them up thru google:
>
>
>
> Looks like a pretty nice unit. Costs more than a spring King,
obviously.
>
>
> -c*
I tried one recently. Excellent reverb quality in a trim little box -- much
larger than a pedal, but a lot smaller than a tank. You need two channels or
two inputs on one channel to make it work. One line out is dry, one wet.
That's what queered it for me, as I need it for an old Gibson amp on which I
always jumper channels. To continue using both channels, I would need a
high-quality A/B/Both switch, another 100 bucks or so. That in addition to the
275
cost of the Reverbamate. If I had the extra cash, I'd do it. Excellent sound.
Michael D.
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A guy who bought my amp dropped by with one of these, let me try it. I agree
with Marty,
while it is about equal to my Twin Reverb's on-board reverb, it wasn't as deep
as a full-
size tank. And, at close to $250, it's my opinion you'd do better to spend a
little more and
get a used Fender reissue.
G
> The Vanamp was discussed a month or two ago on this list. The reviews
> say it gives depth of reverb equivalent to what we hear out the Twin
> Reverb but not the depth we hear out of a Fender tank.
> -Marty
>
> --- In , Chris Sutor <Christophert@s...>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday, April 10, 2005, at 02:50 PM, Ian wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Just recently I was flipping through
> > > the march '05 guitar player magazine and saw a review for a
> similar
> > > product called the vanamps reverbamate. Has anyone used one of
> these?
> > > They look to be better quality (tweed instead of plastic) and the
> > > review was good. However I rarely trust a magazine.
> >
> >
> > Just looked them up thru google:
> >
> >
> >
> > Looks like a pretty nice unit. Costs more than a spring King,
> obviously.
> >
> >
> > -c*
--- In , "Ian" <Get_Hustle@h...> wrote:
>
> Awhile ago I remember there being hot debate and discussion over the
> Danelectro Spring King. The general concensus on that seemed to point
> to it being a total piece of junk.
I've had a Spring King for a couple years. I wouldn't call it a piece
of junk. For the price, it does a good job and it has a real tank.
The Little Lanelei pedal costs more and is basically the same thing,
and gets better reviews for some odd reason. Maybe because some
people automatically think that Dano gear is all junk. Unless someone
doesn't have the space for a regular Fender reverb unit, the
Reverbmate seems to be pretty steep in price. You can get one of the
Fender units for not *that* much more, and it'll be much better for surf.
I'm guessing it's the "cheap = crap/expensive = quality" mentality. In
some instances it's true, but I keep in the back of my mind the
question "will the average person in the audience know any better?"
I've once played a Fender Standard Telecaster against a Fender US
Special Highway One Telecaster, and although I played 'em both
unplugged, I could tell a noticeable difference...the more expensive
Highway 1 sounded better. But, I'm a player, so of course I'd notice
the difference.
What about the average AR person, for the big record company? Will
that person, listening to a demo, know that one's reverb is a Spring
King between the guitar and amp, and not an actual Fender Twin? Unless
the AR person in question is/was a player, probably not. In that case,
I doubt they'd notice any difference of whether a song was recorded
using an Mbox and, say, an iMac G5, not a full on Pro Tools rig with a
DP Power Mac G5 having all 3 PCI slots occupied with digidesign cards.
I may be wrong, but I still suspect that the masses only care about
"the sound," and not whether that sound was created with pro level/pro
priced equipment.
Liz
--- In , "Shawn Martin" <drumuitar@y...>
wrote:
>
> I've had a Spring King for a couple years. I wouldn't call it a piece
> of junk. For the price, it does a good job and it has a real tank.
> The Little Lanelei pedal costs more and is basically the same thing,
> and gets better reviews for some odd reason. Maybe because some
> people automatically think that Dano gear is all junk. Unless someone
> doesn't have the space for a regular Fender reverb unit, the
> Reverbmate seems to be pretty steep in price. You can get one of the
> Fender units for not *that* much more, and it'll be much better for
surf.
Ha! Well first I don't know of any BIG record companies signing surf
bands right now. Second, most of the labels that DO sign surf bands
have a few surf bands on their labels and know what to listen for.
As in they are fans, or these guys themselves have played in surf
bands.
I'll proudly be called a snob and will NEVER use ANY digital reverb
pedal, and now that I have a vintage Fender tank, I don't even like
the reissues compared to the way this sounds. Although I think
my '64 is dying.
Bill
www.reluctantaquanauts.com
--- In , "Elizabeth"
<surf_guitar_lizzy@y...> wrote:
>
> I'm guessing it's the "cheap = crap/expensive = quality"
mentality. In
> some instances it's true, but I keep in the back of my mind the
> question "will the average person in the audience know any better?"
> I've once played a Fender Standard Telecaster against a Fender US
> Special Highway One Telecaster, and although I played 'em both
> unplugged, I could tell a noticeable difference...the more
expensive
> Highway 1 sounded better. But, I'm a player, so of course I'd
notice
> the difference.
>
> What about the average AR person, for the big record company? Will
> that person, listening to a demo, know that one's reverb is a
Spring
> King between the guitar and amp, and not an actual Fender Twin?
Unless
> the AR person in question is/was a player, probably not. In that
case,
> I doubt they'd notice any difference of whether a song was recorded
> using an Mbox and, say, an iMac G5, not a full on Pro Tools rig
with a
> DP Power Mac G5 having all 3 PCI slots occupied with digidesign
cards.
>
> I may be wrong, but I still suspect that the masses only care about
> "the sound," and not whether that sound was created with pro
level/pro
> priced equipment.
>
> Liz
>
> --- In , "Shawn Martin"
<drumuitar@y...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've had a Spring King for a couple years. I wouldn't call it a
piece
> > of junk. For the price, it does a good job and it has a real
tank.
> > The Little Lanelei pedal costs more and is basically the same
thing,
> > and gets better reviews for some odd reason. Maybe because some
> > people automatically think that Dano gear is all junk. Unless
someone
> > doesn't have the space for a regular Fender reverb unit, the
> > Reverbmate seems to be pretty steep in price. You can get one
of the
> > Fender units for not *that* much more, and it'll be much better
for
> surf.
I can tell the difference. That is all that matters. When a musician
starts playing for others and doesn't care what they do or sound like
then there is a problem.
--- In , "Elizabeth"
<surf_guitar_lizzy@y...> wrote:
>
> I'm guessing it's the "cheap = crap/expensive = quality" mentality. In
> some instances it's true, but I keep in the back of my mind the
> question "will the average person in the audience know any better?"
> I've once played a Fender Standard Telecaster against a Fender US
> Special Highway One Telecaster, and although I played 'em both
> unplugged, I could tell a noticeable difference...the more expensive
> Highway 1 sounded better. But, I'm a player, so of course I'd notice
> the difference.
>
> What about the average AR person, for the big record company? Will
> that person, listening to a demo, know that one's reverb is a Spring
> King between the guitar and amp, and not an actual Fender Twin? Unless
> the AR person in question is/was a player, probably not. In that case,
> I doubt they'd notice any difference of whether a song was recorded
> using an Mbox and, say, an iMac G5, not a full on Pro Tools rig with a
> DP Power Mac G5 having all 3 PCI slots occupied with digidesign cards.
>
> I may be wrong, but I still suspect that the masses only care about
> "the sound," and not whether that sound was created with pro level/pro
> priced equipment.
>
> Liz
>
> --- In , "Shawn Martin" <drumuitar@y...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've had a Spring King for a couple years. I wouldn't call it a piece
> > of junk. For the price, it does a good job and it has a real tank.
> > The Little Lanelei pedal costs more and is basically the same thing,
> > and gets better reviews for some odd reason. Maybe because some
> > people automatically think that Dano gear is all junk. Unless someone
> > doesn't have the space for a regular Fender reverb unit, the
> > Reverbmate seems to be pretty steep in price. You can get one of the
> > Fender units for not *that* much more, and it'll be much better for
> surf.
I wouldn't use a digital reverb for surf either, Bill,
BUT I'm not sure we are speaking to the point that Liz brings up. Understand
that most of the gear we like was originally intended to be lower priced. The
strat for instance only started getting expensive when aging hippies became
executives and, in an attempt to relive their youth, bought up all the good ol'
strats so they could play the blooze. Now the short supply has translated to
high prices. If one can get a good surf sound and more importantly play awesome
guitar on a low priced strat, that's the way it should be! If a good low priced
reverb were available, I'd use it. Unfortunatly, such a reverb doesn't exist
right now.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: supertwangreverb
To:
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: On the subject of reverb...
Ha! Well first I don't know of any BIG record companies signing surf
bands right now. Second, most of the labels that DO sign surf bands
have a few surf bands on their labels and know what to listen for.
As in they are fans, or these guys themselves have played in surf
bands.
I'll proudly be called a snob and will NEVER use ANY digital reverb
pedal, and now that I have a vintage Fender tank, I don't even like
the reissues compared to the way this sounds. Although I think
my '64 is dying.
Bill
www.reluctantaquanauts.com
--- In , "Elizabeth"
<surf_guitar_lizzy@y...> wrote:
>
> I'm guessing it's the "cheap = crap/expensive = quality"
mentality. In
> some instances it's true, but I keep in the back of my mind the
> question "will the average person in the audience know any better?"
> I've once played a Fender Standard Telecaster against a Fender US
> Special Highway One Telecaster, and although I played 'em both
> unplugged, I could tell a noticeable difference...the more
expensive
> Highway 1 sounded better. But, I'm a player, so of course I'd
notice
> the difference.
>
> What about the average AR person, for the big record company? Will
> that person, listening to a demo, know that one's reverb is a
Spring
> King between the guitar and amp, and not an actual Fender Twin?
Unless
> the AR person in question is/was a player, probably not. In that
case,
> I doubt they'd notice any difference of whether a song was recorded
> using an Mbox and, say, an iMac G5, not a full on Pro Tools rig
with a
> DP Power Mac G5 having all 3 PCI slots occupied with digidesign
cards.
>
> I may be wrong, but I still suspect that the masses only care about
> "the sound," and not whether that sound was created with pro
level/pro
> priced equipment.
>
> Liz
>
> --- In , "Shawn Martin"
<drumuitar@y...>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've had a Spring King for a couple years. I wouldn't call it a
piece
> > of junk. For the price, it does a good job and it has a real
tank.
> > The Little Lanelei pedal costs more and is basically the same
thing,
> > and gets better reviews for some odd reason. Maybe because some
> > people automatically think that Dano gear is all junk. Unless
someone
> > doesn't have the space for a regular Fender reverb unit, the
> > Reverbmate seems to be pretty steep in price. You can get one
of the
> > Fender units for not *that* much more, and it'll be much better
for
> surf.
.
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