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Eminence speakers are pretty good for bass...I use the
300watt 12" version...they are holding up well...good
price, good quality
-dp
--- mono_tones_1 <> wrote:
>
>
> yes, i think i brough the shorter voice coil travel up,
> but in
> retrospect i think i was wrong. voice coil travel is not
> determined
> by the speaker size, but by the back and forth movement
> of the coil,
> and there is no reason why a 10"er would have less
> rocking space then
> a 15", of course depending on the design.
>
> anyway, that's all 'figuring', what I needed was
> experience. I
> noticed that the Ampeg 8x10 cab of my former bassist had
> more bass
> then I ever heard. thanks for everyone's input, esp the
> bassplayers.
>
> the choice we have to make includes a lot of factors,
> such as limited
> funds, an existing cab, and anyway the need to fit all
> our gear in to
> two cars etc.
> I am leaning towards Eminence(s) - even tough it's not
> considered A+ -
> mainly because their complete line is available very
> cheap here,
> and they have an excellent website which gives very
> detailed
> information about every model they make, which at least
> makes it
> possible to pick the right sort of speaker. Our bassist,
> who will be
> paying for his speakers, and will make the ulitmate
> choice, prefers
> new over second hand, and with speakers, I can very well
> understand.
>
> I'll let you know what is decided annd how it works out.
>
> thanks guys.
>
> WR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > The bigger radius speaker puts more emphasis on lower
> frequencies.
> Last time we discussed this, it was figured that the
> longer voice
> coil travel was the reason. Shorter voice coil travel is
> why some say
> that 10's give a more punchy or tighter bass.
> > -Marty
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Richard
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:10 AM
> > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] bass speaker question
> 115 v 212
> >
> >
> >
> > A pair of 12 inch speakers will actually move more
> air
> > but won't quite reach the lower
> frequencies...however,
> > depending on how low you're talking about going, it
> > might not matter. I've got a 2x10 cabinet that I use
> > in conjunction with a 1x15, and I can honestly say
> > that when comparing the two indepently, the 10's
> sound
> > like a waste of time for bass. People always talk
> > about using a greater number of 10's to achieve a
> > "tighter" sound, but in my opinion, bass is bass and
> > I've never had a complaint with the definition I've
> > gotten from a single 15" speaker. Some people say
> > that bigger speakers are "farty" too, but I've never
> > experienced this either. I've never played through
> > 12's on anything, but from what little I've seen I
> > would say that larger speakers are always better for
> > bass. I kinda want to try a big 18 incher just to
> see
> > what it's like.
> >
> > Richard
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thanks DP, could you tell me which 12" model, they have so many?
I'm considering 2 12"s to get to 4 ohms to get the most out of the
bassman 100. Either that 1 15, have it at double ohmage. but the 2 12
seems at thispoint the better option because of matching ohmage (cant
find a 4 ohm 15) better spread, and punchier sound. I personally like
the bass to be not too low - because i want it to be audible yet not
too loud..
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> Eminence speakers are pretty good for bass...I use the
> 300watt 12" version...they are holding up well...good
> price, good quality
>
> -dp
>
>
> --- mono_tones_1 <rockverb@h...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > yes, i think i brough the shorter voice coil travel up,
> > but in
> > retrospect i think i was wrong. voice coil travel is not
> > determined
> > by the speaker size, but by the back and forth movement
> > of the coil,
> > and there is no reason why a 10"er would have less
> > rocking space then
> > a 15", of course depending on the design.
> >
> > anyway, that's all 'figuring', what I needed was
> > experience. I
> > noticed that the Ampeg 8x10 cab of my former bassist had
> > more bass
> > then I ever heard. thanks for everyone's input, esp the
> > bassplayers.
> >
> > the choice we have to make includes a lot of factors,
> > such as limited
> > funds, an existing cab, and anyway the need to fit all
> > our gear in to
> > two cars etc.
> > I am leaning towards Eminence(s) - even tough it's not
> > considered A+ -
> > mainly because their complete line is available very
> > cheap here,
> > and they have an excellent website which gives very
> > detailed
> > information about every model they make, which at least
> > makes it
> > possible to pick the right sort of speaker. Our bassist,
> > who will be
> > paying for his speakers, and will make the ulitmate
> > choice, prefers
> > new over second hand, and with speakers, I can very well
> > understand.
> >
> > I'll let you know what is decided annd how it works out.
> >
> > thanks guys.
> >
> > WR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > The bigger radius speaker puts more emphasis on lower
> > frequencies.
> > Last time we discussed this, it was figured that the
> > longer voice
> > coil travel was the reason. Shorter voice coil travel is
> > why some say
> > that 10's give a more punchy or tighter bass.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Richard
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] bass speaker question
> > 115 v 212
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A pair of 12 inch speakers will actually move more
> > air
> > > but won't quite reach the lower
> > frequencies...however,
> > > depending on how low you're talking about going, it
> > > might not matter. I've got a 2x10 cabinet that I use
> > > in conjunction with a 1x15, and I can honestly say
> > > that when comparing the two indepently, the 10's
> > sound
> > > like a waste of time for bass. People always talk
> > > about using a greater number of 10's to achieve a
> > > "tighter" sound, but in my opinion, bass is bass and
> > > I've never had a complaint with the definition I've
> > > gotten from a single 15" speaker. Some people say
> > > that bigger speakers are "farty" too, but I've never
> > > experienced this either. I've never played through
> > > 12's on anything, but from what little I've seen I
> > > would say that larger speakers are always better for
> > > bass. I kinda want to try a big 18 incher just to
> > see
> > > what it's like.
> > >
> > > Richard
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... and then something else, what amp are you running with it: i read
on the meinence website that you can damage a speaker by providing
NOT ENOUGH power!? I never heard of that and it suprised me too.
anyone knows anything about that. I'd think a 300w speaker on a 100w
bassman would actually b a good ideaa, leaving lots of headroom on
the speaker,
WR
--- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> Eminence speakers are pretty good for bass...I use the
> 300watt 12" version...they are holding up well...good
> price, good quality
>
> -dp
>
>
> --- mono_tones_1 <rockverb@h...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > yes, i think i brough the shorter voice coil travel up,
> > but in
> > retrospect i think i was wrong. voice coil travel is not
> > determined
> > by the speaker size, but by the back and forth movement
> > of the coil,
> > and there is no reason why a 10"er would have less
> > rocking space then
> > a 15", of course depending on the design.
> >
> > anyway, that's all 'figuring', what I needed was
> > experience. I
> > noticed that the Ampeg 8x10 cab of my former bassist had
> > more bass
> > then I ever heard. thanks for everyone's input, esp the
> > bassplayers.
> >
> > the choice we have to make includes a lot of factors,
> > such as limited
> > funds, an existing cab, and anyway the need to fit all
> > our gear in to
> > two cars etc.
> > I am leaning towards Eminence(s) - even tough it's not
> > considered A+ -
> > mainly because their complete line is available very
> > cheap here,
> > and they have an excellent website which gives very
> > detailed
> > information about every model they make, which at least
> > makes it
> > possible to pick the right sort of speaker. Our bassist,
> > who will be
> > paying for his speakers, and will make the ulitmate
> > choice, prefers
> > new over second hand, and with speakers, I can very well
> > understand.
> >
> > I'll let you know what is decided annd how it works out.
> >
> > thanks guys.
> >
> > WR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > The bigger radius speaker puts more emphasis on lower
> > frequencies.
> > Last time we discussed this, it was figured that the
> > longer voice
> > coil travel was the reason. Shorter voice coil travel is
> > why some say
> > that 10's give a more punchy or tighter bass.
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Richard
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:10 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] bass speaker question
> > 115 v 212
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A pair of 12 inch speakers will actually move more
> > air
> > > but won't quite reach the lower
> > frequencies...however,
> > > depending on how low you're talking about going, it
> > > might not matter. I've got a 2x10 cabinet that I use
> > > in conjunction with a 1x15, and I can honestly say
> > > that when comparing the two indepently, the 10's
> > sound
> > > like a waste of time for bass. People always talk
> > > about using a greater number of 10's to achieve a
> > > "tighter" sound, but in my opinion, bass is bass and
> > > I've never had a complaint with the definition I've
> > > gotten from a single 15" speaker. Some people say
> > > that bigger speakers are "farty" too, but I've never
> > > experienced this either. I've never played through
> > > 12's on anything, but from what little I've seen I
> > > would say that larger speakers are always better for
> > > bass. I kinda want to try a big 18 incher just to
> > see
> > > what it's like.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
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I never heard of that either. I have always been told
that the more headroom you had the "healthier" the
speaker would sound and you'd run less risk of
damaging it when you get spikes from playing. It's
for this reason that I quit running everything on my
B100R 1x15 combo so high (bass all the way up, treble
all the way up) because while I liked the aggressive,
cutting sound for live shows, it sounded like crap
when recording. The guy recording our demo for us
told me to run everything flat and do minor tweaks
from there. On my Mesa Boogie head (200 watts) I
don't engage the active EQ at all for fear of busting
something in my cab (also 200 watts).
Richard
--- mono_tones_1 <> wrote:
> ... and then something else, what amp are you
> running with it: i read
> on the meinence website that you can damage a
> speaker by providing
> NOT ENOUGH power!? I never heard of that and it
> suprised me too.
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...sounds like 2x12" will be right for you (original
Fender Bassman amps came with 12" speakers)...
I found the 300watt Eminence 12" speakers at Musician's
Friend... I will look them up and get back to you with a
model number...
-dp
--- mono_tones_1 <> wrote:
>
>
> thanks DP, could you tell me which 12" model, they have
> so many?
> I'm considering 2 12"s to get to 4 ohms to get the most
> out of the
> bassman 100. Either that 1 15, have it at double ohmage.
> but the 2 12
> seems at thispoint the better option because of matching
> ohmage (cant
> find a 4 ohm 15) better spread, and punchier sound. I
> personally like
> the bass to be not too low - because i want it to be
> audible yet not
> too loud..
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In , DP <noetical1@y...>
> wrote:
> > Eminence speakers are pretty good for bass...I use the
> > 300watt 12" version...they are holding up well...good
> > price, good quality
> >
> > -dp
> >
> >
> > --- mono_tones_1 <rockverb@h...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > yes, i think i brough the shorter voice coil travel
> up,
> > > but in
> > > retrospect i think i was wrong. voice coil travel is
> not
> > > determined
> > > by the speaker size, but by the back and forth
> movement
> > > of the coil,
> > > and there is no reason why a 10"er would have less
> > > rocking space then
> > > a 15", of course depending on the design.
> > >
> > > anyway, that's all 'figuring', what I needed was
> > > experience. I
> > > noticed that the Ampeg 8x10 cab of my former bassist
> had
> > > more bass
> > > then I ever heard. thanks for everyone's input, esp
> the
> > > bassplayers.
> > >
> > > the choice we have to make includes a lot of factors,
> > > such as limited
> > > funds, an existing cab, and anyway the need to fit
> all
> > > our gear in to
> > > two cars etc.
> > > I am leaning towards Eminence(s) - even tough it's
> not
> > > considered A+ -
> > > mainly because their complete line is available
> very
> > > cheap here,
> > > and they have an excellent website which gives very
> > > detailed
> > > information about every model they make, which at
> least
> > > makes it
> > > possible to pick the right sort of speaker. Our
> bassist,
> > > who will be
> > > paying for his speakers, and will make the ulitmate
> > > choice, prefers
> > > new over second hand, and with speakers, I can very
> well
> > > understand.
> > >
> > > I'll let you know what is decided annd how it works
> out.
> > >
> > > thanks guys.
> > >
> > > WR
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
>
> > > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > > The bigger radius speaker puts more emphasis on
> lower
> > > frequencies.
> > > Last time we discussed this, it was figured that the
> > > longer voice
> > > coil travel was the reason. Shorter voice coil travel
> is
> > > why some say
> > > that 10's give a more punchy or tighter bass.
> > > > -Marty
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Richard
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:10 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] bass speaker
> question
> > > 115 v 212
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A pair of 12 inch speakers will actually move
> more
> > > air
> > > > but won't quite reach the lower
> > > frequencies...however,
> > > > depending on how low you're talking about going,
> it
> > > > might not matter. I've got a 2x10 cabinet that I
> use
> > > > in conjunction with a 1x15, and I can honestly
> say
> > > > that when comparing the two indepently, the 10's
> > > sound
> > > > like a waste of time for bass. People always
> talk
> > > > about using a greater number of 10's to achieve a
> > > > "tighter" sound, but in my opinion, bass is bass
> and
> > > > I've never had a complaint with the definition
> I've
> > > > gotten from a single 15" speaker. Some people
> say
> > > > that bigger speakers are "farty" too, but I've
> never
> > > > experienced this either. I've never played
> through
> > > > 12's on anything, but from what little I've seen
> I
> > > > would say that larger speakers are always better
> for
> > > > bass. I kinda want to try a big 18 incher just
> to
> > > see
> > > > what it's like.
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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