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Rockabilly and Surf Music

Eric Hutchinson (ehutch247) - 20 Feb 2005 17:33:11

For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows (Dusty
45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the bands
played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or covers. I'm
surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and I was
curious why that is. I see that several people on this list also
have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I don't
recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry doing a
whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the surf,
new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration? Thoughts?

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Jeff (bigtikidude) - 20 Feb 2005 17:48:01

Whooops sorry my last post got gobbled up somehow.
There are all kinds of surf crossover styles.
Hawiian/exotica/lounge/spanish-spaghetti western/middleeastern/
Psychedellic/Rockabilly/Metal/New Wave/Punk
it's all good in my book,
but some are a bit more hard core and don't dig that kind of stuff.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
> <surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
> >
> > For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows
(Dusty
> > 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the
> bands
> > played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or covers.
> I'm
> > surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and I
> was
> > curious why that is. I see that several people on this list also
> > have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I
don't
> > recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry doing
a
> > whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the
surf,
> > new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration? Thoughts?

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Eric Hutchinson (ehutch247) - 20 Feb 2005 18:38:42

I guess I was going for more the other styles point of view, but
didn't make that too clear with my last statement. I know there are
a million variations of surf but what is it, that may appeal more to
those who also listen to rockabilly then, say any other another style
of music.
--- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...> wrote:
>
> Whooops sorry my last post got gobbled up somehow.
>
> There are all kinds of surf crossover styles.
>
> Hawiian/exotica/lounge/spanish-spaghetti western/middleeastern/
> Psychedellic/Rockabilly/Metal/New Wave/Punk
>
> it's all good in my book,
>
> but some are a bit more hard core and don't dig that kind of stuff.
>
> Jeff(bigtikidude)
>
>
>
> --- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > --- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
> > <surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows
> (Dusty
> > > 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the
> > bands
> > > played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or
covers.
> > I'm
> > > surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and
I
> > was
> > > curious why that is. I see that several people on this list
also
> > > have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I
> don't
> > > recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry
doing
> a
> > > whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the
> surf,
> > > new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration?
Thoughts?

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Klas Fjellgren (surfites_64) - 20 Feb 2005 18:42:09

Both rockabilly and surf origins from loosely the same time period.
Also the two scenes have common interests in for example hotrods and
tiki stuff. In Stockholm rockabillys and surf fans often hang out at
the same places. Metalheads do not.
Klas / The Surfites
--- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
<surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
>
> For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows (Dusty
> 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the
bands
> played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or covers.
I'm
> surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and I
was
> curious why that is. I see that several people on this list also
> have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I don't
> recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry doing a
> whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the surf,
> new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration? Thoughts?

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Brian Neal (xarxas) - 20 Feb 2005 18:46:00

--- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
<surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
>
> For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows (Dusty
> 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the bands
> played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or covers. I'm
> surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and I was
> curious why that is. I see that several people on this list also
> have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I don't
> recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry doing a
> whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the surf,
> new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration? Thoughts?
Well I don't think a lot of the original Rockabilly guys play surf
covers, since they probably predate surf. But I think it's safe to say
that most modern Rockabilly fans and bands can appreciate surf. I
personally know a few people who like both surf and rockabilly.
Southern Culture on The Skids has several (great) surf songs in their
catalog. Their guitar player, Rick, is a big fan.
Zak from The Treblemakers is now in a rockabilly band.
BN

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Dick Messick (flatwound01) - 20 Feb 2005 18:50:21

I think it's something about the combination of single coils and reverb
and/or slap back delays . . . can't quite put my finger on it, but I like
rockabilly stuff in addition to surf. It's just harder for me to play ;)
-Dick
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Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Rockabilly and Surf Music
>
>
> --- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
> <surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
>>
>> For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows (Dusty
>> 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the bands
>> played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or covers. I'm
>> surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and I was
>> curious why that is. I see that several people on this list also
>> have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I don't
>> recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry doing a
>> whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the surf,
>> new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration? Thoughts?
>
> Well I don't think a lot of the original Rockabilly guys play surf
> covers, since they probably predate surf. But I think it's safe to say
> that most modern Rockabilly fans and bands can appreciate surf. I
> personally know a few people who like both surf and rockabilly.
>
> Southern Culture on The Skids has several (great) surf songs in their
> catalog. Their guitar player, Rick, is a big fan.
>
> Zak from The Treblemakers is now in a rockabilly band.
>
> BN
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supertwangreverb - 20 Feb 2005 19:55:34

Thank God for Rockabilly and it's fans. We have more Rockabilly
people at our shows than Surf people. Infact, a majority of the
shows we play are for Rockabilly type events. On top of that all
the Rockabilly people in the city of Chicago have been a BIG support
to us, and really nice as well. I honestly think they like Surf
because it's really similar to Rockabilly. One of the reasons we've
gone off in the Cardigan/Vintage Look/Sound direction is that is
what the Rockabillies around here really dig.
Rockabilly guitar is where I started off in highschool.
Bill
www.freewebs.com/reluctantaquanauts
-- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
<surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
>
> For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows
(Dusty
> 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the
bands
> played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or covers.
I'm
> surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and I
was
> curious why that is. I see that several people on this list also
> have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I
don't
> recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry doing a
> whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the surf,
> new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration? Thoughts?

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Chris (kahunatikiman) - 20 Feb 2005 20:51:18

--- In , "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> Thank God for Rockabilly and it's fans. We have more Rockabilly
> people at our shows than Surf people. I honestly think they
like Surf
> because it's really similar to Rockabilly. >
> Bill
> www.freewebs.com/reluctantaquanauts
Yep, it's that way here in Denver too. We get paired with
Rockabilly/Vintage country all the time. This weekend, we're
playing a show with one rockabilly, one roots country, and one Funk-
aBilly group. Around here, it's all called "roots music". I think
Dick Messnick is right, it's about the reverb/echo. It's all guitar
driven rhythm. I'd actually like to encorporate some rockabilly
songs into our song list. I've seen numerous national acts ( Deke
Dickerson/Junior Brown) play rockabilly, and then bust out a couple
of surf numbers, and the crowd loves 'em.
One of the coolest shows I went to in the last few years had The
Original Haley's Comets, The Beloved Invaders (Bolder Bobb's Kick
ASS surf band) The Orang-a-Tones ( a great frat-rock band), High
Noon ( roots Country/rockabilly) and the Fireballs. It was GREAT!
All different, but similiar, ya know?! A full afternoon of twangy
fun!
Chris
www.theAquaSonics.com
Chris
>
>
>
>
> -- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
> <surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
> >
> > For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows
> (Dusty
> > 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the
> bands
> > played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or
covers.
> I'm
> > surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and
I
> was
> > curious why that is. I see that several people on this list
also
> > have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I
> don't
> > recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry doing
a
> > whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the
surf,
> > new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration?
Thoughts?

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DP (noetical1) - 21 Feb 2005 03:56:32

I think it has to do with a few things:
1. The "Twang" (fat heavy strings, single coil pickups)
2. Tremolo (as in a tremolo bridge)
3. Vibrato (as a built-in option on Fender amps)
4. Walk-Don't Run (Ventures)
5. Sleep Walk (Santo and Johnny)
6. Link Wray
7. Gretsch hollowbody guitars
8. Reverb (as a built in option on Fender amps)
9. Brian Setzer Orchestra
10 Reverand Horton Heat
the above mentioned influences tend to have their impacts
on
the Rockabilly crowd...dragster and horror music too...
-dp
--- Eric Hutchinson <> wrote:
>
>
> For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly
> shows (Dusty
> 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both
> nights the bands
> played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or
> covers. I'm
> surprised at how much of a connection there is between
> them and I was
> curious why that is. I see that several people on this
> list also
> have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong
> but I don't
> recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck
> berry doing a
> whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not
> the surf,
> new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration?
> Thoughts?
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Jeff (bigtikidude) - 21 Feb 2005 15:47:28

Aha gotcha,
there have always been instrumental songs in lots of styles over
the years. Back in the early to mid 1900's they were all over
radio, up into the 70's. As for the Rockabilly to surf coneection,
it's gotta be the twangy guitar sound. Same could be said for some
new wave also think devo,flock of segulls, Bow wow wow, etc etc.
Surf is a subliminal thing with the non surf listener.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
--- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
<surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
>
> I guess I was going for more the other styles point of view, but
> didn't make that too clear with my last statement. I know there
are
> a million variations of surf but what is it, that may appeal more
to
> those who also listen to rockabilly then, say any other another
style
> of music.
>
>
> --- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...>
wrote:
> >
> > Whooops sorry my last post got gobbled up somehow.
> >
> > There are all kinds of surf crossover styles.
> >
> > Hawiian/exotica/lounge/spanish-spaghetti western/middleeastern/
> > Psychedellic/Rockabilly/Metal/New Wave/Punk
> >
> > it's all good in my book,
> >
> > but some are a bit more hard core and don't dig that kind of
stuff.
> >
> > Jeff(bigtikidude)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "Jeff" <bigtikidude@y...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
> > > <surfinseattle@h...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows
> > (Dusty
> > > > 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights
the
> > > bands
> > > > played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or
> covers.
> > > I'm
> > > > surprised at how much of a connection there is between them
and
> I
> > > was
> > > > curious why that is. I see that several people on this list
> also
> > > > have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I
> > don't
> > > > recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry
> doing
> > a
> > > > whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the
> > surf,
> > > > new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration?
> Thoughts?

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tynere - 25 Feb 2005 13:57:38

Chris, any idea what time the AquaSonics will be starting tonight?
-------------- Original message --------------
>
>
> --- In , "supertwangreverb"
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank God for Rockabilly and it's fans. We have more Rockabilly
> > people at our shows than Surf people. I honestly think they
> like Surf
> > because it's really similar to Rockabilly. >
> > Bill
> > www.freewebs.com/reluctantaquanauts
>
> Yep, it's that way here in Denver too. We get paired with
> Rockabilly/Vintage country all the time. This weekend, we're
> playing a show with one rockabilly, one roots country, and one Funk-
> aBilly group. Around here, it's all called "roots music". I think
> Dick Messnick is right, it's about the reverb/echo. It's all guitar
> driven rhythm. I'd actually like to encorporate some rockabilly
> songs into our song list. I've seen numerous national acts ( Deke
> Dickerson/Junior Brown) play rockabilly, and then bust out a couple
> of surf numbers, and the crowd loves 'em.
>
> One of the coolest shows I went to in the last few years had The
> Original Haley's Comets, The Beloved Invaders (Bolder Bobb's Kick
> ASS surf band) The Orang-a-Tones ( a great frat-rock band), High
> Noon ( roots Country/rockabilly) and the Fireballs. It was GREAT!
> All different, but similiar, ya know?! A full afternoon of twangy
> fun!
>
> Chris
> www.theAquaSonics.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- In , "Eric Hutchinson"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > For the past two nights I went and saw two Rockabilly shows
> > (Dusty
> > > 45's/S.c.o.t.s. & Seattle Psychobilly Brawl). Both nights the
> > bands
> > > played a surf song or two, whether their own creation or
> covers.
> > I'm
> > > surprised at how much of a connection there is between them and
> I
> > was
> > > curious why that is. I see that several people on this list
> also
> > > have mentioned interests in it. correct me if i'm wrong but I
> > don't
> > > recall a lot of rockabilly "roots" bands, like chuck berry doing
> a
> > > whole lot of reverb drenched tremolo picking. So why not the
> surf,
> > > new wave connection or the surf/metallica collaboration?
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
>
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