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Richard & Marty:
I too feel fortunate and blessed to have a great guitar
playing friend: good old Frank. Frank plays killer
"natural" guitar...he doesn't really study or practice
much, but when he picks up the guitar pure expression comes
out the speakers. I met Frank when I was 12, and he's the
reason I play bass. In a way, I'm Frank's bass player. Now
I'm 39, and when Frank and me "play guitars" real music is
all that ever happens.
Frank plays an old Traynor 2x12 canadian amp. Sounds
awesome and warm just like a Fender, but louder. Lately,
good old Frank's been playing the ukelele a bunch. I still
play bass and sometimes the old reverb rhythm guitar.
I learn stuff on my own, but I learn way more playing with
Frank.
the end
-dp
--- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
>
> Hey Richard,
>
> I believe you when you say it was impossible to figure
> out tunes on your own. I have a friend that I get
> together with who is the same way. I also think it's
> great that your desire to learn was strong enough such
> that you went for tabs. If you're somewhat unimpressed
> with your current ability, that may say something about
> learning by tab. I recommend that you try again to find
> guitarists to hang with or even a recommended teacher.
>
> I could feel lucky that I had a friend that helped me out
> with the guitar at a young age. But we make our own luck.
> What that means in my case is that I was very into music,
> and very not into sports. So I hung out with people of
> the same ilk. It was natural that many guitar players
> were around for me to pick their brains.
>
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] tabs
>
>
>
> I don't do tabs anymore nearly as much as I used to
> because in all my playing I've developed something of
> an ear...I'm still not really any good at figuring
> things out by any stretch, but most simple things I
> can nail down. At the outset, however, it was
> IMPOSSIBLE..I reiterate...IMPOSSIBLE for me to figure
> tunes out. I had zero musical background, nobody
> onhand to teach me anything and no idea what I was
> doing. I picked up the guitar when I was 21 years
> old. I'm 25 now and I still suck. I totally
> understand where you guys are coming from about
> avoiding tabs, but for me it really wasn't an option.
> My playing level is beyond my ear as a result of tabs,
> but I also feel that without them I never would've
> gotten started.
>
> Richard
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: DP
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] my friend, Frank
Richard & Marty:
I too feel fortunate and blessed to have a great guitar
playing friend: good old Frank. Frank plays killer
"natural" guitar...he doesn't really study or practice
much, but when he picks up the guitar pure expression comes
out the speakers. I met Frank when I was 12, and he's the
reason I play bass. In a way, I'm Frank's bass player. Now
I'm 39, and when Frank and me "play guitars" real music is
all that ever happens.
Frank plays an old Traynor 2x12 canadian amp. Sounds
awesome and warm just like a Fender, but louder. Lately,
good old Frank's been playing the ukelele a bunch. I still
play bass and sometimes the old reverb rhythm guitar.
I learn stuff on my own, but I learn way more playing with
Frank.
the end
-dp
--- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
>
> Hey Richard,
>
> I believe you when you say it was impossible to figure
> out tunes on your own. I have a friend that I get
> together with who is the same way. I also think it's
> great that your desire to learn was strong enough such
> that you went for tabs. If you're somewhat unimpressed
> with your current ability, that may say something about
> learning by tab. I recommend that you try again to find
> guitarists to hang with or even a recommended teacher.
>
> I could feel lucky that I had a friend that helped me out
> with the guitar at a young age. But we make our own luck.
> What that means in my case is that I was very into music,
> and very not into sports. So I hung out with people of
> the same ilk. It was natural that many guitar players
> were around for me to pick their brains.
>
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 4:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] tabs
>
>
>
> I don't do tabs anymore nearly as much as I used to
> because in all my playing I've developed something of
> an ear...I'm still not really any good at figuring
> things out by any stretch, but most simple things I
> can nail down. At the outset, however, it was
> IMPOSSIBLE..I reiterate...IMPOSSIBLE for me to figure
> tunes out. I had zero musical background, nobody
> onhand to teach me anything and no idea what I was
> doing. I picked up the guitar when I was 21 years
> old. I'm 25 now and I still suck. I totally
> understand where you guys are coming from about
> avoiding tabs, but for me it really wasn't an option.
> My playing level is beyond my ear as a result of tabs,
> but I also feel that without them I never would've
> gotten started.
>
> Richard
>
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