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You were banned for life from the FDP?
I'm jealous that you can play Scratch! It sounds just like the
record!
Chris
--- In , "supertwangreverb"
<supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> Chris, I agree with you here, Great post. My intial post does
sound
> harsher than the way it sounded in my head,(maybe this is why I
was
> banned for life from the FDP) but hell, I hate wasting 15 bucks on
a
> CD I dislike :) Ivan's posts are legendary and sometimes
> disagreeing with him is like taking on the blitzkrieg.
>
> This Trad vs. Prog idea stands up in other forms of music too, and
I
> think it's more acceptable for someone who loves Merle Haggard
> country to hate Shanie Twain. Because this community is so small,
> and basically on a personal level, one's dislike of an aspect of
the
> genre upsets others who don't.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> --- In , "kahunatikiman" <chris@b...>
> wrote:
> >
> > This is a good topic! I always enjoy Ivan's posts, they are
> > informative and very well thought out. my only critique would
be
> if
> > Ivan could do like they do at Reverborama, and call
everyone "fag"
> > more. ;-)
> >
> > I think it's safe to say we all got into surf music the same
> > way, by hearing the first wave songs by the first wave bands.
I
> > agree with Ivan that nothing will sound like they did then.
We
> > are all just trying to do our version of that original sound.
> >
> > I'd bet all of us started out on the same 5-10 songs, trying
> as
> > hard as we could to "sound like the record". For some of us,
> thats
> > enough, for others, they feel compelled to try to update the
> sound,
> > or the songs, or come up with their own ideas. One of my
favorite
> > things about surf music is the confines in which a song can be
> > called surf music. For the most part, it's that original
> > traditional sound. It may have evolved over the years, as
> > everything does, but at the core is that reverb-driven sound.
> >
> > Bills words may have been harsh, but he has a point. I have
> > also purchased new cd's thinking they would be good, only to
find
> > they ultimately don't stand the test of time. I always go back
to
> > the old stuff. Perhaps I'm trying to recapture the feeling the
> first
> > time I heard DD's Miserlou, or Pipeline. Newer stuff doesn't
> > inspire me like the classics.
> >
> > Just because Bill doesn't buy every album that's released
> doesn't
> > make him less of a fan....
> >
> > I hope someday to have enough inspiration to come up with my own
> > ideas , and leave my "mark" on the genre, but it that never
> > happens, at least I'll have once heard "you sound just like the
> > record"!
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > P.S. I think The Nobles also did the original version
> > of "Hiawatha" later covered by The Surfaris. It's really just a
> rip
> > off of the Hamms Beer song. "from the land of sky blue
> > water....water!"
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , DP <noetical1@y...> wrote:
> > > Ivan:
> > >
> > > I read through your wonderful well-thought-out piece and I
> > > must comment on one point you touched upon...
> > >
> > > Back in 1960-1965, the "surf music" scene was un-self
> > > conscious...those musicians had a "zen-like" simplicity and
> > > purity to their approach to the music they created.
> > > Basically, they were dorks and goobers who wanted to
> > > impress their friends by getting on the radio or playing at
> > > the High School dance on Friday night.
> > >
> > > Remember, that period was before such blatant commercial
> > > entities like the Monkeys, the Partridge Family, The Brady
> > > Bunch and yes...even the Beatles. Way before MTV and Hot
> > > Topic, but that's another story altogether.
> > >
> > > Those surf-dudes (and dudettes such as Kathy Marshall)
> > > really had what they heard on the radio, on records and
> > > what they saw at their local High School dances to ionspire
> > > their creativity. And, of course, they had old Dick Dale
> > > at the Rendevous Ballroom...
> > >
> > > Anyway, I guess the point you made about an idyllic moment
> > > in history (1963) struck a chord in me...I simply wanted to
> > > chime in and stress that, to me, real "surf music" is 90%
> > > attitude and approach and charachter and only 10% equipment
> > > and music knowledge (if even that much.)
> > >
> > > Last year, I had the pleasure of watching a show by the
> > > Tornadoes (you know, Pulp Fiction soundtrack and all
> > > that..."Bustin' Surfboards")...You prpbably played with
> > > them at the "Rendevous Reunion" right?...
> > >
> > > Those guys are still together, living in Redlands
> > > California (where they have always lived)...They have been
> > > playing "real surf music" for over 40 years now... The show
> > > was GREAT!...light-hearted...FUN! They can barely
> > > play...total garage rock...they know what they know...and
> > > what they know is how to have fun making their music. True
> > > "surf music" attitude all the way...they were my heroes
> > > that day!
> > >
> > > Well I could go on and on...no sense flogging a dead horse.
> > >
> > > keep up the cool commentary,
> > > Dave P
> > >
> > > PS: Does anyone know much about the group "The Nobles"?
> > > I am attempting to preserve some "vintage grafitti" along a
> > > a rural highway in San Diego County California...painted
> > > on a boulder in big black letters "THE NOBLES"...looks like
> > > vintage 60s grafitti...any leads out there?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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