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Yes. I put down the rhythm. When the song started, I was playing dual
lead with Nokie and noticed that Don wasn't playing rhythm.
Hmmmm...that won't do I thought. I switched over to the correct rhythm
part. Presto, it sounded much better. So for a change, the Ventures did
the song truer to original form.
Les
On Friday, October 8, 2004, at 11:56 AM, Marty Tippens wrote:
>
> Is this to say you put down a rhythm? It would be very out of
> character for Don to change his ways.
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leslie Fradkin
> To:
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] The Ventures with Les Fradkin at Salmon
> Fest
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>
> Not when I play it with em!
>
> Les
>
> On Friday, October 8, 2004, at 10:01 AM, Marty Tippens wrote:
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>>
>> Hi Les,
>>
>> That certainly is a feather in your cap to be playin' with those guys!
>>
>> My complaint with the Ventures version of Wipe Out has not to do with
>> the drums. It's the fact that no one lays down the rhythm guitar part.
>> Bob, Don, and Nokie/Gerry all play the lead line so the groove created
>> by the rhythm guitar is missing.
>>
>> -Marty
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Leslie Fradkin
>> To:
>> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:27 AM
>> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] The Ventures with Les Fradkin at Salmon
>> Fest
>>
>>
>> Hey Marty,
>> When Alan White & I got on stage with 'em, they played it correctly
>> because they followed Alan & I and we know it "correctly."
>>
>> A lot of their repertoire is suited to general fans interest.
>> But....the version we did together of "Caravan" was spectacular.
>> Nokie
>> & I played the lead in stereo/unison. The crowd went nuts on that
>> one.
>> Maybe I injected a little new energy into the proceedings. Heck, I
>> even
>> got Don Wilson to smile and laugh, which Bob Bogle has told me is a
>> rare feat.
>>
>> The Venturettes are always a lot of fun and are great people. I've
>> worked with them twice (both times that they have appeared) and
>> everyone looks forward to their schitck.
>>
>> Nokie, The Ventures and I have quite a few surprises lined up for
>> 2005.
>> We'll keep you posted.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Les
>>
>> On Thursday, October 7, 2004, at 06:06 PM, Marty Tippens wrote:
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>>>
>>> Hey Brian,
>>>
>>> I have to agree that those Venturettes look like a lotta fun!
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if your shock over the Venture playing Wipe Out is more
>>> towards elation or terror. For me, it's the latter. The fact that the
>>> Ventures still play Wipe Out is a point of distress to many Ventures
>>> fanatics like myself. I wish they would lose the number, which they
>>> never played correctly anyway, and replace it with one of their
>>> excellent originals or lesser heard tunes.
>>>
>>> If you take a look at the Ventures live albums of the past 15 years,
>>> there's a good ten or more of 'em and they all have the same basic
>>> track list which includes Wipe Out, Caravan, Walk Don't Run, Hawaii
>>> Five - O etc... They do occasionally throw in a few bones for us
>>> hardcore fans now and then. But enough Wipe Out and WDR already!!
>>> Well, apparently their just tryin' to please the general crowd which
>>> I
>>> can't blame 'em for.
>>>
>>> -Marty
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Brian Neal
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 4:03 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] The Ventures with Les Fradkin at
>>> Salmon
>>> Fest
>>>
>>>
>>> I am really quite shocked that the Ventures still play Wipe Out...!
>>>
>>> And who are the Venturettes? Do they actually play all those
>>> gorgeous
>>> guitars?
>>>
>>> Must have been quite cool to play with them...
>>>
>>> BN
>>>
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