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Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds

DP (noetical1) - 08 Sep 2004 18:03:51

I'd like to hear someone use a tremolo effect in their
sound...a pulsing huge gut wrenching Leslie-speaker tremolo
unit...
hey! maybe that will be my sound!...
DP
--- ipongrac <> wrote:
>
> --- In , Leslie Fradkin
> <lfradkin@e...>
> wrote:
> > "I'm reading here that they're the only string that has
> enough tone
> > to play through a reverb tank? "
> >
> > No, just if you want Dick Dale's tone...
>
> Well, I really don't think so. I know of no evidence
> that Dick Dale
> EVER used flatwounds. In general, I don't think
> flatwounds work very
> well on a Strat. Just my opinion. I do know for a fact
> that Hank
> Marvin of the Shadows used roundwounds from the very
> beginning (i.e.
> Apache in 1960) and ever since. (He used Gibson
> Sonomatics back
> then, strings that are again available.) I also know
> that the
> Atlantics used roundwounds back in the day, since you can
> hear them
> scratching the picks against the strings on several
> songs. To my
> ears, Dick's tone is closer to the roundwounds than
> flatwounds.
>
> However, flatwounds work really well with Jags and
> Jazzmaster,
> especially when you start doing a lot of palm-muting with
> a lot of
> reverb from a Fender reverb unit. Think Astronauts on
> Baja, Surf
> Party, etc. Less agressive surf music, with that
> 'waterwell-ping',
> wet reverb sound. Flatwounds sound much better for that
> kind of
> stuff. So, it depends on what you want.
>
> Incidentally, Les, why is that is people who are after
> the more
> traditional reverbed tone are told that this is Dick
> Dale's sound,
> while the more distorted, 'modern' tone is not referred
> to as Hendrix
> tone or Clapton's tone or Beck's tone or Angus Young tone
> or
> whatever? I think that just as you can use all those
> same overdriven
> tones to find your own sound, one can also use the same
> setup as Dick
> Dale or Eddie Bertrand circa '63 to come up with one's
> own sound, as
> well. We've seen many modern surf guitarists prove that:
> Frankie
> Blandino of the Fathoms, Dave Wronski of Slacktone, Evan
> Foster of
> the Boss Martians, Rip Thrillby, John Blair of Jon & the
> Nightriders,
> Shigeo Naki of the Surf Coasters, and many others all use
> basically
> the same ingredients and equipment as Dick Dale and
> traditional surf
> guitarists but all have their own distinctive style that
> at least I
> find recognizable. I'm personally tired of the late
> sixties,
> seventies and eighties guitar tones, since they have been
> way
> overused, and they're not terribly modern to my ears, nor
> are they
> terribly distinctive. I think they you can create a much
> more
> personal tone by using the same equipment that DD and
> other surf
> pioneers used for the simple fact that it hasn't been
> used by
> thousands of other guitarists. There's a lot more to be
> done with
> it. That's the philosophy to which I adhere, anyway. If
> you really
> want a new, modern, different tone, do something like
> Reeves Gabrels
> or Sonic Youth or whatever other experiment guitarists:
> use different
> equipment than anybody else or in completely different
> ways than
> others.
>
> Just a few thoughts for further discussion...
>
> Ivan
>
>
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