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Re: 62 AV Jag buzzing...

jimmywilseylives - 01 Jan 2004 21:35:51

Dave,
I know this is probably a no but if I brought my Jag down to the
Fender Corona site could I get this thing resolved? I live in OC.
This is truly the most time-consuming drag in trying to figure out
something here I don't know anything about. Thanks for your help. It
has truly been most helpful and an eductaion into the whole picture
of the electronics associated with these Jags. Thanks. Dario G.
Gomez (aka jimmywilseylives)
--- In , dave wronski <stickmandw@y...>
wrote:
> I don't think it's a switch problem. They either make contact, or
don't. If everything turns out to be correct on you guitar, you can
minimize noise by painting the inside of the body with grounding
paint. I did this with a couple of my guitars - my white Jagur, and
blonde "Mary Kay" Strat. It does help lower the buzz level. You also
have to screw in a wired terminal connected to ground into the body
so the lead paint is part of the gound structure. But. you may not
want to start messing up you new guitar like that. If you decide to
do it, shake the paint well so the metal is evenly distributed. Then
check with an Ohm meter that the ground is effective at different
points of the body.
>
> -dave
>
> jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> Dave,
> Could a bad switch cause these issues. I checked continuity for
> everything in the guitar and everything checked out ok. I tried
the
> sawtooth shields with the guitar cord check and still got the same
> result. The pickups seem to have a little paraffin or wax on them
> and I don't know if it's related. In response to the comment you
> made on the Jag being quieter than a Strat, when I'm touching any
> metal on the guitar the dampening effect it does make it very
quiet
> like a Strat in humbucking positions. When I let go ----> Buzz.
When
> I touch the metal or strings again ----> PoP! PoP! ???
> Over a grand and sounds good if I just hold it and don't play
it.
> I agree, playing guitars is more fun than fixin' 'em. Thanks for
> your help. Dario
>
>
> --- In , "jimmywilseylives"
> <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > Dave,
> > Thanks for the input. I will see if what you suggested works
> and
> > report back. I appreciate your time, thought and advice. Have a
> most
> > superb New Year! Dario
> >
> > --- In , dave wronski
> <stickmandw@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > Well, Do the same check from the control plate that has the
> output
> > jack to the upper control plate, the small switch plate, and the
> > metal "keepers" that surround the pickups
> > >
> > > Is there buzz with all combonations of pickups?
> > >
> > > The brass plates inside need to be grounded, but it's unlikely
> > that they were not soldered to ground.
> > >
> > > When I go back to Fender on Monday I'll talk to some people
> about
> > it. I have been doing repair work in the Fender final assembly
> > dept.for the last couple of months, so I should be able to find
> the
> > answer. Playing guitar is more enjoyable than working on them!
> > >
> > > -dave
> > >
> > > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > Dave,
> > > Thanks for the lenghty reply. I appreciate your time in
> writing
> > > to help.
> > > Well, I did try your test. I plugged in the Jag, took a
cable
> > and
> > > held it by the plastic sleeving and not the shielding and
> touched
> > > the control plate to the strings and trem plate ---> nothing
> > really
> > > happened. When I touched the plates with my finger it was like
> > > someone turned a switch off. It was that dramatic. I checked
> > > continuity of the cable going into the Jag by checking one end
> of
> > it
> > > with one probe and the other probe on the jack plate. No
> problem.
> > > Continuity of the rest of the Jag was good. ??? I dunno what's
> > next.
> > > Thanks. Dario
> > >
> > > --- In , dave wronski
> > <stickmandw@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Check this first: While the guitar is plugged in and
buzzing,
> > take
> > > a guitar cord and touch the control plate {lower} with one
end,
> > and
> > > the tailpiece with the other end. Be careful not to touch the
> the
> > > meat parts with you hand or it will interfere with the test.
> Does
> > > making that connection lower the level off buzz?
> > > >
> > > > If it does, check to see if the ground wire is makinig
contact
> > > with the tailpiece. There should be a wire coming through a
hole
> > to
> > > the tailpiece cavity, that needs to have the bare wire between
> the
> > > body and the tailpiece when the tailpiece is screwed down to
> make
> > > the ground connection. I know you already looked at that, but
> the
> > > test will determine if it's making contact.
> > > >
> > > > The Jaguar should have less buzz when both pickups are on
> {middle
> > > position}, because they are reverse wound, and reverse
magnetic
> > > polarity from each other.
> > > >
> > > > Also, Jaguar's buzz less than Strats,etc. because of the
> > > metel "keepers" on the pickups, and the extensive shielding
> inside
> > > the body.
> > > >
> > > > And for anyone with a Japan made Jaguar, they don't even
drill
> a
> > > hole for the ground wire to the tailpiece. I use a piece of
> copper
> > > tape on top of the body because I haven't got around to
drilling
> > the
> > > holes in my two MIJ Jags.
> > > >
> > > > good luck,
> > > > -dave
> > > > jimmywilseylives <jimmywilseylives@y...> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > I just bought a 62' RI AV Jag and the thing buzzes like no
> > > tomorrow
> > > > when you DON'T touch the strings, bridge, switch plates or
> body.
> > I
> > > > called Fender and they said it is normal but it is really
> > > obnoxious.
> > > > Is there anything I can do to curb that buzz? Would more
> > shielding
> > > in
> > > > the body help or is it just endemic to the pickups? I found
a
> > wire
> > > > coming from the control plate to the trem cavity and I
> > sandwiched
> > > it
> > > > between the trem plate and body in thehopes it would
eliminate
> > the
> > > > buzz and that proved futile. I appreciate your help in any
> way.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
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