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The D-2 sounds like crap for guitar without an effects loop. I
checked out the Yamaha UD delay
()
and it looks really cool. I really want one now.
Verbs,
Rick
--- In , "ohsyrus" <ohsyrus@y...> wrote:
> Do you need a mixer to use the D-2? My amp is a very basic design
with
> no effects loop. Pedal chain routes nicely, but no balanced
> connectors. The D-2 looks pretty cool.
>
> John
>
>
> --- In , "Rick Escobar"
<maxxreverb@y...>
> wrote:
> > I have a TC Electronics D-Two that I now use for delay these
days. A
> > cool feature is that I can control the exact number of repeats,
for
> > me it's very musical.
> >
> > Another good delay is built into my Fender Cyber Twin, sounds
fine to
> > me.
> >
> > My Lexicon PCM81 has some good delays but it's a huge pain to
program
> > so I use it for everything but delay.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Green tube Echoplex's are almost perfect, but the "Alantis" has
me
> > interested. Cick on the
> > rack-mount "Alantis" picture, then "English", if that's your
> > preferance.
> > > -dave
> > >
> > >
> > > ohsyrus <ohsyrus@y...> wrote:
> > > Ivan,
> > > I read your remarks about EFTP with great interest. I too, am an
> > > echoplex freak, and am totally sick and tired of dealing with
> > antique
> > > units. There is a Guyatone unit which is quite good. And
Fulltone is
> > > comeing out with a real tape delay unit as well. I have heard
> > rumours
> > > that Mike Battle is going into production with a new model, but
I
> > will
> > > believe it when I see it. I currently use the H&K Replex,(as
well as
> > > the Gibson Echoplex) which I think sounds pretty good, but only
has
> > > two heads. I went to the Shadows sites and read up on their
opinions
> > > about various muti-tap delays out there. I see that the spec
sheet
> > for
> > > the Zoom RFX2000 looks fairly impressive for a cheap digital
unit--I
> > > just never had such a good opinion of Zoom stuff. I am even
pretty
> > > critical of more expensive Lexicon and TC Electronic units,
that is,
> > > until you get to the G-Force and G2 levels. One of the good
aspects
> > > to the Zoom model appears to be the patch editor software that
is
> > > included, plus, they are less than $200 on line. There is a new
> > delay
> > > pedal from Yamaha, the UD Stomp, that is getting some rave
reviews
> > > from some players. I read that EFTP had evaluated it against
the
> > Zoom,
> > > and gone with the Zoom, but then I also read that they would be
> > coming
> > > out with patches for the UD Stomp. The UD Stomp has 8 bands
which
> > can
> > > be programmed and then connected in serial or parallel. It was
> > > developed in conjunction with Allen Holdsworth. Its spendy, but
I
> > > haven't seen anything quite this versatile without going to the
TC
> > > Electronic 2290 level. Have you heard anything about this unit?
You
> > > seem to have a pretty good opinion of the Zoom unit. Have you
tried
> > to
> > > program it?
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , "ipongrac"
<ipongrac@g...>
> > wrote:
> > > > My friend, you've discovered the glory that is old tape
echos!
> > That
> > > > echo effect you refer to is called 'staggered echo repeats.'
It
> > is a
> > > > result of multiple playback heads mounted varying distances
apart
> > > > from each other that, when activated, will give echo repeats
at
> > > > different times, thus - staggered echo repeats! Almost all
the
> > > > old/original echo units had something like this. The Shadows
and
> > the
> > > > Atlantics were famous for making very effective use of this
> > effect.
> > > > Some of the most famous echo units from the sixties that were
> > able to
> > > > get this effect were made by mostly Italian companies such as
> > Meazzi
> > > > and Binson (both used by Hank Marvin) and German companies
such
> > as
> > > > Klemt (makers of the Echolette used by the Atlantics) and
> > Dynacord.
> > > > Dynacord made good echo units, but not as well known as the
first
> > > > three brands. The Shadows addicts have spent a LOT of
internet
> > time
> > > > discussing all these various echo units. You can explore
some of
> > > > their discussions here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (lots of cool info on Fender guitars and Vox amps on these
pages,
> > > > too, that some readers of this list may enjoy.)
> > > >
> > > > Just make sure you keep digging back into the archives, cause
> > they
> > > > pretty much exhausted all topics related to echo units a few
> > years
> > > > ago. :)
> > > >
> > > > This is an effect that isn't easy to get with modern
equipment.
> > I
> > > > know of maybe one or two echo pedals that were able to
reproduce
> > > > this, and they're now discontinued (Zoom 508 and maybe Akai
> > > > Headrush). Modern rack effects can approach the effect by
> > > > programming the so-called 'multi-tap' delays with proper echo
> > times.
> > > > But this is a big pain in the ass, and you still don't get
the
> > warm
> > > > treble-degradation that tapes do naturally, which adds so
much to
> > the
> > > > tone. However, as these staggered echos are absolutely key
for
> > any
> > > > self-respecting Hank Marvin wannabe, the markets have - as
> > expected -
> > > > responded! There is a company called Echos From the Past
that
> > > > programs a Zoom RFX 2000 unit with identical sounding echos
as
> > the
> > > > old ones. It's a British company, and you can find their
website
> > > > here:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have one of these Zoom units programmed by them, and it was
> > worth
> > > > every penny, absolutely fantastic! It was about $450, if I
> > recall
> > > > correctly. They researched dozens of old tape echo units,
and
> > built
> > > > in all the nuances of those machines, without their
> > unreliability!
> > > > You see, the problem with those units is that they are very
rare,
> > and
> > > > very expensive, but mostly very OLD! How many tape players
over
> > 20
> > > > years old are still working? And most of these echo machines
are
> > > > over 40 years old! Moving parts wear out over the period of
> > time,
> > > > and maintenance is a big pain, as well. So, people are
looking
> > to
> > > > the digital realm to solve this problem - and it's been
done.
> > It's
> > > > not as cool as the old tape units, but it's a lot more
> > convenient.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, I hope that helps.
> > > > Ivan
> > > >
> > > > --- In , "kahunatikiman"
> > <chris@b...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Last night, I went and saw Bolder Bob and his band , the
> > Beloved
> > > > > Invaders, play in Denver. AWESOME!!! Every time I see
them
> > they
> > > > get
> > > > > better, and they were fantastic to begin with! Bob blows me
> > away
> > > > > everytime, and they have the tightest rhythm section I
have
> > ever
> > > > > heard. Anyway, Bob uses an effect called a DynaChord,
which
> > > > gives
> > > > > his guitar an tape echo effect that sounds great. I have
> > tried
> > > > > reproducing the sound using a danelectro dan-echo, but it
isn't
> > the
> > > > > same. Bob's echo speeds up as it fades. Anyone know a
good
> > > > (cheap)
> > > > > alternative to get this sound without spending a few
hundred
> > bucks
> > > > on
> > > > > a Dynacord? I saw the Danelectro Reel Echo box, but I
read
> > > > reviews
> > > > > and it didn't sound too good.
> > >
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