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IMHO, any Fender amp bearing the word or description "Showman" produced
after the year of our lord one thousand nine hundred and sixty seven is a
holy hunk of shite. Garbage, and I'm not just trying to get people to send
me their stuff this time.
-Dano
-=The Nebulas=-
>From: "Brian Neal" <>
>Reply-To:
>To: <>
>Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] Re: what's with "Dual"
>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:38:02 -0500
>
>I bought a Dual Showman ('66) this year. 85 Watts with 2 x 15" speakers.
>
>Like Phil said, the only difference between a Dual Showman and a Showman is
>one resistor and the output transformer.
>Fender was inconsistent about the faceplates though. Sometimes they said
>"Dual Showman" on them and sometimes they just said "Showman" even though
>they were technically Dual. Mine just says "Showman"
>
>You need to check the output transformer code to be sure it is a Dual
>Showman. Although some of them do indicate Dual Showman on the tube chart
>(mine doesn't). I can look up the codes for you if you want.
>
>The stock speakers used were JBL-D130F's or JBL-D140F's. These are 15"
>speakers. I don't know where you got 13" Jerry, I've never heard of
>that....?
>
>I would be wary about running a Dual Showman through a single 8 Ohm speaker
>load for very long....! My amp tech told me that I could do that, but only
>if I pull 2 of the power tubes first (and yes it does matter which ones,
>but
>I've forgotten which ones he said; I think it was the two outside ones BUT
>DON'T QUOTE ME ON THAT).
>
>$500 dollars is a good price I think if it is a black face. Make sure its
>not a silver face (not that their bad, its just you can get those a little
>cheaper maybe) or one of the early 1980's red knob Dual Showman. Be warned
>though, you will want to get new tubes and have the electrolytic capacitors
>replaced if they are original. This will add maybe $200 or more depending
>on
>what tubes you get and who you have work on it.
>
>Again, I'm talking about black face Showmans above. There are the earlier
>blonde ones, then after the black face models came the CBS silver faces,
>and
>then there were the red knob Showmans (not related at all really).
>
>The Fender Field Guide is a great resource as is the Fender Forum for
>learning about these things:
>
>
>
>
>Having said all that....I am really knocked out with my Showman. It far
>surpassed any expectations I had and continues to amaze me. I can't believe
>that tone is coming from my guitar and hands! If I only had the chops to
>match!
>
>Good luck!!
>BN
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Bergstrom [mailto:]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 4:01 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: what's with "Dual"
> >
> >
> > Guys,
> > Thanks so much for all the help and guidance.
> >
> > The guy offered me $500 (probably plus tax)
> >
> > I'd probably be willing to take him up on it, assuming it can at
> > least put out some signal, and would work alright with the single 15"
> > cab. I just appreciate that cab so much more.
> >
> > Naturally, I'd still need to track down a cab, make sure it has a
> > Jensen D130F in it, and I'll probably re-tube it (unless that's been
> > done recently).
> >
> > Does this sound like a good deal? Or should I play it cool for a
> > little longer and see if something pops up?
> >
> > ~Bill~
>
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