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"Steve" at Fender customer service said:
"Made in Japan, comes with gig bag"
dp
--- DP <> wrote:
> From "Adam" tech at Musician's Friend:
>
> RE: Fender Jaguar $699 (#515109)
>
>
> Response (Adam) - 07/25/2003 09:53 AM
> Thank you for your recent inquiry.
>
> The #515109 Jaguar is made in Japan. It has a poly
> finish
> and no mute or cover. No case or bag is included. We do
>
> sell the cover as a separate part, however, not the mute:
>
>
>
> We also sell several cases that will fit:
>
>
>
>
> --- DP <> wrote:
> > The musician's Friend info people seem to think the
> Jags
> > are MIM (I called them)...hmmmm, I wonder who is right?
> > Isn't Guitar Center the same as Musician's Friend?
> Maybe
> > I
> > will call them...
> > dp
> > --- Brian Neal <> wrote:
> > > Here is what "The Doctor" said about these guitars on
> > the
> > > Fender Forum...
> > >
> > > <quote>
> > > "I talked to Fender. These guitars (JM and Jag) are
> > > definitely MIA at the
> > > Corona facility. It's another one of those special
> > order,
> > > limited color
> > > options, limited candy, no case specials that major
> > > dealers sponser through
> > > Fender. Get 'em while you can boys and girls. There's
> > one
> > > less LPB JM than
> > > when we started!"
> > > <end quote>
> > >
> > > They do seem to be different that the American
> Vintage
> > > series though. The
> > > headstocks are different, the pickguards are stark
> > white
> > > instead of mint
> > > green, and the Jag has no mute. They seem to be
> > American
> > > versions of the
> > > Japanese reissues!!!
> > >
> > > BN
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brian Neal [mailto:]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:33 PM
> > > > To:
> > > > Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] The new Jazzmaster and
> > > Jaguar at Musician's
> > > > Friend confusion...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I emailed Musician's friend this very same
> question.
> > I
> > > started
> > > > the thread on the Fender Forum about this. I
> haven't
> > > heard from them yet.
> > > >
> > > > I believe these $699 models are Ishibashi guitars,
> as
> > > the
> > > > American reissues never came in Lake Placid Blue,
> and
> > > Candy Apple
> > > > Red was discontinued several years ago. Although I
> > see
> > > now that
> > > > some guys on the Fender Forum called MF, and they
> > claim
> > > the JM is
> > > > MIA and the Jag is MIM. That really doesn't make
> > sense.
> > > >
> > > > Mr. Wronski? Can you clarify? (probably not,
> > Slacktone
> > > is in
> > > > Europe now...)
> > > >
> > > > I don't believe you could build your own for $900
> and
> > > have it
> > > > match the quality of the American Vintage reissues.
> > > These are
> > > > really high quality guitars. All the parts are much
> > > higher
> > > > quality than the MIJ's (granted they are using
> > American
> > > pickups
> > > > now), cloth covered wiring, the Jags have mutes
> > (MIJ's
> > > do not),
> > > > nice case, plus the high quality nitro finish.
> > Remember
> > > that the
> > > > whole goal of the American Vintage series of
> guitars
> > is
> > > to
> > > > reproduce the 1962 models with modern parts and
> > > techniques. Hence
> > > > the big $$$$$.
> > > >
> > > > However, I agree with you that there is a huge
> demand
> > > for a
> > > > cheaper line of Jags & JM's. Thats probably why
> > Fender
> > > is finally
> > > > allowing the Japanese models back into the US
> again.
> > > >
> > > > If you are patient you can pick up the American
> > Vintage
> > > guitars
> > > > on Ebay for $800-$1100. And Musician's friend sold
> > the
> > > Inca
> > > > Silver American Jags & JM's for $1000 when Fender
> > > discontinued
> > > > that color.
> > > >
> > > > Heck you can even buy a vintage guitar for the same
> > > price as a
> > > > new American reissue.
> > > >
> > > > So I sympathize with you and also hope for more
> > easily
> > > affordable
> > > > Jags & JM's.
> > > >
> > > > I am interested to see how this all turns out.
> > > >
> > > > BN (aka SurfCR)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: jimmywilseylives
> > > [mailto:]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:14 PM
> > > > > To:
> > > > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] The new Jazzmaster and
> > > Jaguar at Musician's
> > > > > Friend confusion...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > I looked on Musician's Friend today to see
> > that
> > > Fender is
> > > > > putting out the "J&J's" at $699. If so, what are
> > the
> > > differences with
> > > > > the Vintage '62 RI's and these new ones? I
> honestly
> > > think it is
> > > > > incredibly ridiculous that Fender charges $1330
> for
> > > the guitar which
> > > > > doesn't include $103 for tax (A $1433 value -
> > > pleeeeease!). I could
> > > > > custom build one of these guitars for less with
> > parts
> > > from Warmoth at
> > > > > around $900 retail. If anyone here works at
> Fender
> > > please have them
> > > > > sneak a peek at the Jaguars and Jazzmasters page
> on
> > > > > www.Fenderforum.com. We love your stuff but
> c'mon.
> > > Many are either
> > > > > buying these guitars straight from Japan (under
> > $700)
> > > or building
> > > > > their own and I'm sure price has a huge factor in
> > it
> > > all. Thanks. JWL.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
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