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RE: [SurfGuitar101] The new Jazzmaster and Jaguar at Musician's Friend confusion...

DP (noetical1) - 25 Jul 2003 11:09:32

who is "the Doctor" ?
can't you get a mute aftermarket from Fender?
I know you can get a Fender Tolex case for about $140
lets see $700+$150= $850 (???) for a Corona Jag (?)(!!!)
Dude, the red and blue colors suck...but you can't beat the
price...
what's up with the headstock...how is it "different"?
dp
--- Brian Neal <> wrote:
> Here is what "The Doctor" said about these guitars on the
> Fender Forum...
>
> <quote>
> "I talked to Fender. These guitars (JM and Jag) are
> definitely MIA at the
> Corona facility. It's another one of those special order,
> limited color
> options, limited candy, no case specials that major
> dealers sponser through
> Fender. Get 'em while you can boys and girls. There's one
> less LPB JM than
> when we started!"
> <end quote>
>
> They do seem to be different that the American Vintage
> series though. The
> headstocks are different, the pickguards are stark white
> instead of mint
> green, and the Jag has no mute. They seem to be American
> versions of the
> Japanese reissues!!!
>
> BN
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brian Neal [mailto:]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 6:33 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: [SurfGuitar101] The new Jazzmaster and
> Jaguar at Musician's
> > Friend confusion...
> >
> >
> > I emailed Musician's friend this very same question. I
> started
> > the thread on the Fender Forum about this. I haven't
> heard from them yet.
> >
> > I believe these $699 models are Ishibashi guitars, as
> the
> > American reissues never came in Lake Placid Blue, and
> Candy Apple
> > Red was discontinued several years ago. Although I see
> now that
> > some guys on the Fender Forum called MF, and they claim
> the JM is
> > MIA and the Jag is MIM. That really doesn't make sense.
> >
> > Mr. Wronski? Can you clarify? (probably not, Slacktone
> is in
> > Europe now...)
> >
> > I don't believe you could build your own for $900 and
> have it
> > match the quality of the American Vintage reissues.
> These are
> > really high quality guitars. All the parts are much
> higher
> > quality than the MIJ's (granted they are using American
> pickups
> > now), cloth covered wiring, the Jags have mutes (MIJ's
> do not),
> > nice case, plus the high quality nitro finish. Remember
> that the
> > whole goal of the American Vintage series of guitars is
> to
> > reproduce the 1962 models with modern parts and
> techniques. Hence
> > the big $$$$$.
> >
> > However, I agree with you that there is a huge demand
> for a
> > cheaper line of Jags & JM's. Thats probably why Fender
> is finally
> > allowing the Japanese models back into the US again.
> >
> > If you are patient you can pick up the American Vintage
> guitars
> > on Ebay for $800-$1100. And Musician's friend sold the
> Inca
> > Silver American Jags & JM's for $1000 when Fender
> discontinued
> > that color.
> >
> > Heck you can even buy a vintage guitar for the same
> price as a
> > new American reissue.
> >
> > So I sympathize with you and also hope for more easily
> affordable
> > Jags & JM's.
> >
> > I am interested to see how this all turns out.
> >
> > BN (aka SurfCR)
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jimmywilseylives
> [mailto:]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:14 PM
> > > To:
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] The new Jazzmaster and
> Jaguar at Musician's
> > > Friend confusion...
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > > I looked on Musician's Friend today to see that
> Fender is
> > > putting out the "J&J's" at $699. If so, what are the
> differences with
> > > the Vintage '62 RI's and these new ones? I honestly
> think it is
> > > incredibly ridiculous that Fender charges $1330 for
> the guitar which
> > > doesn't include $103 for tax (A $1433 value -
> pleeeeease!). I could
> > > custom build one of these guitars for less with parts
> from Warmoth at
> > > around $900 retail. If anyone here works at Fender
> please have them
> > > sneak a peek at the Jaguars and Jazzmasters page on
> > > www.Fenderforum.com. We love your stuff but c'mon.
> Many are either
> > > buying these guitars straight from Japan (under $700)
> or building
> > > their own and I'm sure price has a huge factor in it
> all. Thanks. JWL.
> > >
> >
>
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