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--- In , Ferenc Dobronyi
<ferencnd@y...> wrote:
>
> Wannes and all,
> I have been using the Line 6 Echo Park as my second
> delay ( I use two, what the Hell!) so I wanted to get
> a different unit (to replace the poorly designed
> DanEcho) for a different tone. But, the Line 6 sounds
> so absurly great I decided to get a second one, then
> changed my mind and bought the Line 6 DL4 which has 3
> programmable presets, and is the unit that the
> EchoPark is based on. I want to highly recommend the
> Echo Park for anyone looking into a delay pedal, the
> tone is unbelievable, its built like a tank and it has
> true bypass switching.
> Thanks for everyone's feedbeack, even the economics
> lesson <g>.
> Ferenc
>
> --- mono_tones_1 <rockverb@h...> wrote:
>
> > the still rather cost effective and way more
> > quality-dedicated
> > alternative that most manufacterors use is a
> > PCB-jack that still
> > screws to the box - the Dano's problem is not the
> > pcb-jack, but the
> > fact that three tiny solder joints are ALL the
> > connection the jacks
> > have to the pedal. the danecho's sound great, I have
> > two, and among
> > them had to repair them three times - no room for
> > decent jacks
> > inside - next time they crap out they'll hit the
> > bin.
> >
> > the GP shootout mentioned gave editors pick to both
> > the line 6 and a
> > Rocktron short timer. (and a Moog) - the rocktron is
> > said to more or
> > less do the same thing as thedano, for less money
> > and with better
> > jacks.
> >
> > WR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In , "unlunf"
> > <unlunf@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ferenc,
> > >
> > > > I can't stand the fact that the jacks are wired
> > > > to the circuit board instead of the unit shell.
> > > > This has been the point of failure for both
> > units
> > > > now. Stupid engineering-- the unit has a heavy
> > > > duty shell, but why did they bother?
> > >
> > > I've got one word for you - cost.
> > >
> > > Manufacturers long ago stopped using quality jacks
> > > such as those made by Switchcraft. As far as I
> > can
> > > tell, Marshall was the first to use plastic
> > 'import'
> > > jacks that mounted directly on the circuit board.
> > > (But I really could be wrong - that's just where I
> > > first saw them, that's all.) Anyway, even though
> > > these new jacks all failed miserably, they were so
> > > much cheaper that they continued to be used, and
> > are
> > > still used today.
> > >
> > > Consider: a plastic jack from Taiwan (or other
> > Asian
> > > country) might cost a builder 15 to 20 cents per
> > unit,
> > > in lots of 1,000. The cheapest Switchcraft jack
> > you
> > > can purchase right now, in lots of 1,000, is $1.29
> > - each!
> > > But wait, it gets better: he not only saves money
> > on the
> > > raw parts, but he also saves even more due to not
> > having
> > > to pay someone to solder individual wires from a
> > circuit
> > > board to said jacks. Such a deal!
> > >
> > > Now, put yourself in the position of a electronic
> > gizmo
> > > builder. Do you use the more expensive part and
> > avoid
> > > repairs (and sustain customer satisfaction), or do
> > you
> > > use the cheap stuff, fund most (but not all!) of
> > those
> > > pesky warranty claims that come in, and whistle
> > all the
> > > way to the bank? That's right, you got it the
> > first time.
> > >
> > > FWIW, about 40% of all my work over the last 8
> > years or
> > > so has been jack related. It doesn't matter who
> > made
> > > the item, if it has plastic jacks, their gonna
> > fail,
> > > you can make book with Jimmy the Greek on that
> > one. <g>
> > > I often suggest replacing the bad part with an
> > upgrade,
> > > if there's space available to put in the
> > panel-type
> > > jacks. More than half my customers have made the
> > switch,
> > > you can guess why.
> > >
> > > So it was a looooong word, sorry. <g>
> > >
> > >
> > > unlunf
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In , Ferenc
> > Dobronyi
> > <ferencnd@y...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > While we are talking about effects, or fuzzes
> > anyway,
> > > > I have a question about delays. My second
> > Danelectro
> > > > delay went down right before a show last Friday,
> > and I
> > > > will not be buying another, despite the fact
> > that is
> > > > is a great sounding unit. I can't stand the fact
> > that
> > > > the jacks are wired to the circuit board instead
> > of
> > > > the unit shell. This has been the point of
> > failure for
> > > > both units now. Stupid engineering-- the unit
> > has a
> > > > heavy duty shell, but why did they bother?
> > > > The feature I am really looking for is the high
> > end
> > > > roll of that gives a delay the analog sound, so
> > I am
> > > > wondering what other people are using. No I
> > don't want
> > > > to carry my echoplex around, just too fragile.
> > Ivan,
> > > > weren't you using an Akai Headrush for a while?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > ferenc
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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