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the still rather cost effective and way more quality-dedicated
alternative that most manufacterors use is a PCB-jack that still
screws to the box - the Dano's problem is not the pcb-jack, but the
fact that three tiny solder joints are ALL the connection the jacks
have to the pedal. the danecho's sound great, I have two, and among
them had to repair them three times - no room for decent jacks
inside - next time they crap out they'll hit the bin.
the GP shootout mentioned gave editors pick to both the line 6 and a
Rocktron short timer. (and a Moog) - the rocktron is said to more or
less do the same thing as thedano, for less money and with better
jacks.
WR
--- In , "unlunf" <unlunf@y...> wrote:
>
> Ferenc,
>
> > I can't stand the fact that the jacks are wired
> > to the circuit board instead of the unit shell.
> > This has been the point of failure for both units
> > now. Stupid engineering-- the unit has a heavy
> > duty shell, but why did they bother?
>
> I've got one word for you - cost.
>
> Manufacturers long ago stopped using quality jacks
> such as those made by Switchcraft. As far as I can
> tell, Marshall was the first to use plastic 'import'
> jacks that mounted directly on the circuit board.
> (But I really could be wrong - that's just where I
> first saw them, that's all.) Anyway, even though
> these new jacks all failed miserably, they were so
> much cheaper that they continued to be used, and are
> still used today.
>
> Consider: a plastic jack from Taiwan (or other Asian
> country) might cost a builder 15 to 20 cents per unit,
> in lots of 1,000. The cheapest Switchcraft jack you
> can purchase right now, in lots of 1,000, is $1.29 - each!
> But wait, it gets better: he not only saves money on the
> raw parts, but he also saves even more due to not having
> to pay someone to solder individual wires from a circuit
> board to said jacks. Such a deal!
>
> Now, put yourself in the position of a electronic gizmo
> builder. Do you use the more expensive part and avoid
> repairs (and sustain customer satisfaction), or do you
> use the cheap stuff, fund most (but not all!) of those
> pesky warranty claims that come in, and whistle all the
> way to the bank? That's right, you got it the first time.
>
> FWIW, about 40% of all my work over the last 8 years or
> so has been jack related. It doesn't matter who made
> the item, if it has plastic jacks, their gonna fail,
> you can make book with Jimmy the Greek on that one. <g>
> I often suggest replacing the bad part with an upgrade,
> if there's space available to put in the panel-type
> jacks. More than half my customers have made the switch,
> you can guess why.
>
> So it was a looooong word, sorry. <g>
>
>
> unlunf
>
>
> --- In , Ferenc Dobronyi
<ferencnd@y...> wrote:
> >
> > While we are talking about effects, or fuzzes anyway,
> > I have a question about delays. My second Danelectro
> > delay went down right before a show last Friday, and I
> > will not be buying another, despite the fact that is
> > is a great sounding unit. I can't stand the fact that
> > the jacks are wired to the circuit board instead of
> > the unit shell. This has been the point of failure for
> > both units now. Stupid engineering-- the unit has a
> > heavy duty shell, but why did they bother?
> > The feature I am really looking for is the high end
> > roll of that gives a delay the analog sound, so I am
> > wondering what other people are using. No I don't want
> > to carry my echoplex around, just too fragile. Ivan,
> > weren't you using an Akai Headrush for a while?
> > Thanks,
> > ferenc
> >
>
