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Re: [SurfGuitar101] Guitar Samples :: (was:surf compression ?)

Phil Dirt (dirtkfjc) - 09 Oct 2005 23:39:38

Neal, a quick listen displayed a really dead and colorless tone. The
word that comes to mind is "brittle." Strings? Pickups? Amp?
A quick look with EQ and you have almost no low frequencies (where the
beef is) and no highs at all (harmonics and color).
A quick monkeying with reverb pointed out making it sound powerful and
rich requires solving the problem with the guitar/amp.
Since you said that sample 2 was virtually direct, I am assuming that
the guitar is the problem, either strings or pickups or they was you
set your controls. If by direct you don't mean direct, but just mean
ampo flat, then the amp may still be the problem.
I can see why you're troubled. The only other time I've heard this dead
a tone was once with Leslita of the Neptunas. With major doctoring, it
only rose to marginally acceptable.
Here are links to quickly doctored version. This is NOT what you'd do
to fix this, but comapre to your originals. Even with the extreme bass
boost I used, there's little beef here.
Phil
--- "Neal S." <> wrote:
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alright phil and others,
please help me out. there are 2 samples in the FILES
section on this yahoo group. the folder is called
"NealCraptar"
sample 1 : is with head and cab modeling.
sample 2 : is pretty much just DI without the amp
modeling
both were recroded with fat strat, some EQ ( that i
always use ) and a behringer mixer as a pre amp ( to
match up impedence ) and a little reverb. Also they
were run through a tube amp compressor, but with unity
gain.
now, ive never been in a studio, and have just heard
the guitar coming through the monitors. how do my
samples differ ? would you suggest i work on the
modeled sound, or the strictly DI sound. or scratch
both. and anything else you can think of.
thanks, i appreciate this
neal
--- Phil Dirt <> wrote:
> that's novel - let's try it.
>
> --- "Neal S." <> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> thanks phil, i can try most of these, viturally of
> course ! if i post some quick riffs of just guitar,
> can you tell me how they compare to more
> professional
> recordin
gs and how you might go about adjusting them
.
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