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Re: [SurfGuitar101] surf compression ? (digital mixology)

DP (noetical1) - 08 Oct 2005 12:36:24

Neal:
Have you considered the microphone? What kind of mic are
you using to capture the guitar sound? I use a Sure
SM57...not the most expensive or "best" mic ever
produced...but it does a decent job capturing good guitar
tone.
I place the mic off-axis about 3 inches away from one of my
12" speaker cones. Fender Bassman volume at about 4. Full
effects through the amp: reverb and tremelo. Sometimes I
add a second mic far away for an additional "ambient room"
track. I get additional "highs" and natural room
reverbration that way.
I believe the "mastering" step of the recording process is
crucial for decent digital sound. I find I have to adjust
the overall mix balance (EQ) and overall compression (ie:
'fake' tape compression) to get the final sound I am after.
The sound I am usually shooting for is "early 60s AM
radio/ 45 rpm" style sound...except I prefer a stereo final
mix to a mono final mix. Currently, I have been messing
around with a "surround" style mix...like the mixes found
on DVD surround sound...wacky stuff.
good luck,
-dp
--- "Neal S." <> wrote:
> alright thanks phil, so basically i should get 'the
> sound' before i record, and if i need compression, add
> it later if at all.
>
> even though i record up to about -3dB ( leaving some
> headroom for EQ and other FX ), my guitar still sounds
> like its being played in a tin can thats in a
> woodshed, 300 yards back. and thats before i add
> everything else, including other guitar parts and
> guitar overdubs.
>
> also im a digital recorder, with amp modelers (
> currently berhinger mixer through NI guitar rig ) (
> dont hate ! ) but i know ill never get the analogue
> sound, but ive heard a ton of digital recordings, and
> the guitars dont sound as far away as mine.
>
> phil have you ever done digital ? or strictly analogue
> ? any insight ?
>
>
>
> --- Phil Dirt <> wrote:
>
> > As a recording engineer and mixer, I strongly
> > suggest you NOT color the
> > source signal beyond your amp and reverb. It can't
> > be undone. Your
> > playing style (variations in attack relative to the
> > rest of the mix)
> > will determine whether compression adds to the mix
> > or not. IMHO, there
> > are no "pat" answers.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > --- "Neal S." <> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > i got a question for some of you surf guitarists,
> > who
> > have recorded.
> >
> > do you use compression? do you print with
> > compression,
> > or add it in the mix.
> >
> > what are your thresholds and ratios like ?
> >
> > very curious, and still trying to completly
> > understand
> > compression,
> >
> >
> > neal
> >
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