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Ask the Ventures. They will tell you they weren't a surfband. They
recorded some great surf tracks, mimicking the sound sometimes, but
they aren't/weren't a surfband. Compare their dry, uninspired cover
"Pipeline" to the real thing. It's not even in the ball park. Later,
they figured it out, and maybe 30 tracks (out of thousands) were really
good surf, like "Journey To the Stars," and their own remake of "Walk
Don't Run '64." Most of their songs are rock instros or country instros
or go-go or disco.
Neither are the Shadows a surfband. They are almost entirely unrelated
to surf. It's not the same sound at all. Not the guitar sounds, not the
effects, not the beat, not the production values, nothing!
The Ventures were a prime influence on surf. The Shadows were virtually
unknown in the US in the sixties, and they never tried to incorporate
the surf sound into their sound.
Phil
--- wrote:
Ventures aren't surf? That to me is like saying Muddy Waters ain't
the
blues. If the Ventures aren't Surf, just what the heck have I been
listening to all these years? The Ventures, The Shadows, The
Surfaris? What gives?
-MC