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Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Fender amp, built-in Fender reverb?

John McCorvey (eddiekatcher) - 15 Aug 2005 21:20:03

Hey Ivan, it doesn't matter what amp YOU play....It
will sound AWESOME!!!!!You are the man and your DP
rocks......In Indianapolis and in Chicago you took no
prisoners.......I never could become one with mine
though as it always seemed to be fighting me.....It
was LOUD and it was HEAVY....but it was solid.....I
tried all sorts of speaker combos in it, D-131F's,
D-120's, K-120's and even E-120's. But I never felt
as comfortable with it as I do with the '68 Dual
Showman Reverb head I've had around for years.....It
just sings and feels like an old friend....I recently
repackaged one of my '68 Dual Showman Reverb heads
into a Twin Reverb cab with brand new Fender Twin
Reverb speakers and it, quite frankly, is a real
suprise.....boy, does it sound good on tape. And set
up about 1 foot off the ground on a milk crate, has
great focus.....Still a bit heavy for tired old eddie
k though...anybody out there tried the new super light
weight neodymium speakers? They are supposed to be
really efficient.....Can't wait for the new Maderia CD
and pass along my greetings to the guys, best
reverbs (built-in or add on) eddie k
--- ipongrac <> wrote:
> --- In , John McCorvey
> <eddiekatcher@y...> wrote:
> > I've had experience with both the Vibro King and
> the
> > Dual Professional. And while they do have a
> "3-knob"
> > reverb built on the front end, neither of them
> were
> > any match for any of my stand alone reverbs....I
> spent
> > a fair amount of time mulling through the enclosed
> > schematics that came witht the Dual Professional
> and I
> > could never figure how Fender could call that
> circuit
> > a true reverb tank circuit. They both sounded
> pretty
> > good until you plugged in the real thing and
> > bang.....real reverb!!!!!I'll say one thing for
> that
> > Dual Professional Amp, It was the loudest Fender
> amp
> > I've ever had, and I have some really hot/tweaked
> > Dual Showman Reverb heads....I put the DP chassis
> in a
> > Showman head type cab and used it to power a Dual
> > Showman bottom with 2 EV-15L's. That was one
> awesome
> > combination. However, the Dual Pro Amp was
> somewhat
> > sterile and didn't push back and sing the way most
> > great Fender amps do when they are really
> > cooking....But it was LOUD, and it was
> CLEAN!.....The
> > reverb though, just didn't quite cut it.....Eddie
> K
>
> Hmmm, well, I must say that my own experience with
> my Dual
> Professional is very different from Eddie's. I
> bought mine some
> eight or nine months ago (used on eBay - it's a '96)
> and it's been
> my primary gigging and recording amp since then. I
> think the
> speakers and tubes are such a big component of the
> sound of any
> amps, and maybe this is why I like it so much while
> Eddie didn't
> care for it much. The stock Celestion Vintage 30s
> in that amp broke
> up very easilly and when you turned the amp up past
> 7, it started
> sounding like Jimmy Page. I replaced the Celestions
> with Weber's
> copies of JBL D120Fs, together with the aluminum
> dust cap. Since
> then the amp has been sounding incredible, as good
> as any Fender amp
> I've ever played. It is a bit cleaner than a
> Showman, but since
> when is this a problem for surf music?
>
> As far as the reverb, my main reverb unit for the
> last ten years has
> been a blonde reissue with the cap mod and NOS
> tubes. I connected
> it to the Dual Pro and then I switched between the
> onboard reverb
> and the reverb box - I could tell no difference. My
> own impression
> has been that Fender did a fantastic job with the
> onboard reverb
> unit for the Dual Pro (though it uses different
> tubes - a 6V6 and a
> two 12AX7s, rather than 6K6, 12AT7 and 12AX7), and
> I've played
> several gigs with that amp using the onboard reverb
> with very
> satisfying results. I also recorded with it as my
> primary amp two
> weeks ago with equally satisfying results. I wonder
> if the tubes
> used make a big difference for the reverb? (I
> swapped mine out with
> the JJ tubes, which I highly recommend.) Also, it
> is possible there
> is a fair amount of variation between the Dual Pro's
> reverb units
> and I just lucked out.
>
> Ivan
>
>
>
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