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Good job, Red. This string has now gone as far off it's originally intended
track as it possibly can! Well wait a minute, maybe I can throw in a few words
about Mac Davis.
-Marty
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From: red_thundr
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Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:46 AM
Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: DD's Nitro Fuel - Birth of Shred?
--- In , "ipongrac" <ipongrac@g...>
wrote:
> --- In , "supertwangreverb"
> <supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
>
> > My education on 80s shredder is minimal, I guess this has nothing
to
> > do with surf music, but what pops in my head is Van Halen, Kirk
> > Hammet, etc. And that I wasn't hearing on much of Dick's stuff.
> > When I think of a lot of the shredders I know,I'm reminded of how
> > little passion many of them have, it's all about trying to play
as
> > many notes as possible. It's unfair to say because I don't know
> > many shredders, maybe there are passionate ones out there. But
when
> > I hear Dick's solo's I hear much more passionate energy.
>
> Uh-oh, watch out, Bill. Red Thunder is gonna come after you with
all
> he's got now! Marty probably, too. :)
>
> Well, I think it's unfair to generalize like that. Some shredders
> were amazing, and put a lot of emotion into their playing. Some
did
> not and sounded basically like typewriters.
Agreed, no argument there. There were a few very passionate players,
and some who were just typewriters, or worse. Some players it was
debatable whether they were shred or not. Slash, for example, was not
known for being a technical player, but he ended up respected for his
emotional playing. Kirk Hammett of Metallica was not really
considered shred; he was often chided for not being very technical,
despite having studied with Joe Satriani. But this ended up working
out for him in the end, allowing him to develop a unique vibrato and
angular melodicism that made him stand out.
Edward Van Halen was really the genesis of the pure rock guitar
virtuoso, though some groundwork was laid by Jimi Hendrix, Eric
Clapton, Johnny Winter, and Alvin Lee, who are all more appropriately
labeled blues players. Other paths were taken by Al DiMeola, John
McLaughlin. The '80s neoclassical era had its roots in the late '70s,
with Randy Rhoads and Yngwie Malmsteen embracing a classical
influence.
Many of the glut of mid-80s shredders were primarily influenced by
Malmsteen, but in that group, there were few standouts. It eventually
turned into a self-indlugent, incestual mess with every up-and-coming
metal band featuring a hot new "virtuoso" guitarist. Still, only a
few players were really memorable for doing anything interesting with
some consistency: George Lynch, Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, maybe
Greg Howe and Michael Lee Firkins, and some fusion-y players, like
Steve Morse, Frank Gambale, and Scott Henderson. A few had stellar
moments, like Vito Bratta and Reb Beach.
The rest? Well... there were a zillion of 'em. I'd suggest pouring
through Shrapnel Records' back catalog if you're interested. There
are a few gems. A few of my personal faves from that era:
Yngwie Malmsteen: "Black Star", "Spasebo Blues"
Greg Howe: "The Pepper Shake", "Kick It All Over"
Steve Vai: "Shyboy", "The Audience Is Listening"
Vito Bratta: "Wait", "Little Fighter"
Steve Morse: "Tumeni Notes"
Joe Satriani: "Surfing With The Alien", "Rubina"
.
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