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I love internet lists. They rule. Where else can you start a
conversation about one thing, have one guy ACTUALLY respond to it
while at least three and probably more like five or six guys go off
on tangents, telling you that you don't know what you're talking
about?? Brilliant! Oh, and then of course there's the
obligatory, "let's define what we're really talking about" post,
too! :)
Look, I love the solo from Rock Around The Clock. Who doesn't?
It's awesome. But it has nothing to do with surf music. And I
regret that I worded my original post in a way that would invite
endless discussion and speculation on what is shred, who started it,
where does jazz end and rock begin, etc. I guess I really don't
give a shit. What I DO give a shit about is DDs amazing solo on
this obscure track that I don't think many people know about. It's
a bit sad that people would rather talk about Danny Cedrone than
Dick Dale on a surf list though... Mention Cedrone and three guys
pipe up. Mention Dick, and one guy pipes up? Does that strike
anyone else as weird? Is there no desire among the people on this
list to actually learn about the lost surf diamonds? One thing that
I find really astonishing is how little discussion there actually is
about the SIXTIES SURF MUSIC - you know, the stuff that started it
all? Is it that people just don't know enough to even engage in a
discussion? Or that they just don't care? The more I learn about
that short period of three or four years, the more blown away I am
by the creativity and originality that emerged from it. And how
astonishingly quickly it evolved from Let's Go Trippin' and Mr. Moto
to Mar Gaya and Ventures in Space. And though I greatly applaud
people approaching surf music with their own interpretation, is it
possible that most people really know very little about the guys
that started all this? Or is it just that they're bored talking
about it? I'm mystified.
Ivan
--- In , bruce duncan <wetreverb@y...>
wrote:
> Let's just face the undeniable fact that Cedrone's solo on Rock
Around The Clock, (Jazz-Based or not) is one of the most defining
moments in the evolution of early Rock & Roll. And where exactly
does one draw the line? Walk Don't Run was composed and recorded by
Johnny Smith, (later covered by Chet Atkins) as a finger-style jazz
composition, and yet it became one of Rock & Roll's most memorable
hits, as performed by the original FOUR Ventures.
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> Bruce D
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> supertwangreverb <supertwangreverb@y...> wrote:
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> >
> > Well, you have a point. And though I see what you're saying, to
my
> > ears that still sounds a lot more like a jazz solo than a rock
solo,
> > though certainly within a rock song. Nitro Heat sounds a lot
more
> > like an eighties metal solo.
> >
> > Ivan
>
> Hmmm, Nitro Fuel! not HEAT! lol. I agree with Ivan I think the
Rock
> Around the clock solo is more jazz based. But I don't really
think
> Nitro Fuel sounds much like any 80s metal solo, but I know little
> about that.
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