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This is what pisses me off about people "A/Bing" things. Do they have
an A/B switch? No. Do they know exactly what they are testing? Yes.
--- In , "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
wrote:
> Ivan is right that we should take what we will from what appear to
be anecdotal claims. It's not clear if they ran a true blindfold test
when they make claims of the old strings over the new. It is a fairly
natural inclination for many folks to endear old gear, or strings in
this case, over new. Sustain properties of various strings, for
example, can't accurately be measured with human hands and ears. The
better way to test the sustain of strings would require an accurate
mechanical device that would provide equal picking attack to the
string and an oscilloscope with a timed scale to mark when the
amplitude of the sustained note dipped below a determined value.
>
> -Marty
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DP
> To:
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
>
>
> I wish I knew which brands of NOS 1960s strings they
> tested...Gibson, Fender, Mosrite, Thomastik, Pyramid,
> LaBella...the mystery continues...
>
> -dp
>
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ipongrac
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:47 PM
> > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> >
> >
> ...Incidentally, here's what else he said about strings:
> >
> > "We extended our research down to the various brands of
> > strings
> > available in the early sixties and we had the good
> > fortune to
> > discover a few sets of NOS 1960s guitar strings. Then
> > we compared
> > these 'old' strings against various sets of 'new' ones
> > and, to our
> > great surprise, the 'old' strings sounded a lot better!
> > We did the
> > test on a guitar with three A strings of different
> > brands mounted at
> > the same time, in order to get rid of every possible
> > inaccuracy. We
> > noticed that the 'old' strings had a longer sustain
> > and, more
> > importantly, they delivered a timbre reminiscent of the
> > sound of the
> > early recordings. The 'new' strings weren't bad, but
> > they sounded
> > unconvincing and unsuitable for the purpose of
> > reproducing the
> > original 'Sound.'"
> >
> > Take from that what you will...
> > Ivan
> >
> > --- In , "Marty Tippens"
> > <mctippens@e...> wrote:
> > > Now that's interesting, Ivan. Is that published info?
> > > -Marty
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: ipongrac
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:40 PM
> > > Subject: [SurfGuitar101] Re: flatwounds
> > >
> > >
> > > Hank Marvin DEFINITELY was using roundwounds
> > through the entire
> > > Shadows career, including their first hit "Apache"
> > from June
> > 1960.
> > > He used Gibson Sonomatics.
> > >
> > > Ivan
> > >
> > > --- In , "Brian Neal"
> > <bgneal@g...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In , Dan Bartley
> >
> > > <bigtwangguy@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > What are some of the original surf songs that
> > were played
> > with
> > > > flatwound strings?
> > > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > > This is an interesting question because I've
> > always assumed
> > that it
> > > > would be most surf songs from the 60's were
> > recorded with
> > > flatwounds.
> > > > I've always been told that round wounds were not
> > widely
> > available
> > > in
> > > > the 60's. The most common strings were heavy
> > flats. Again,
> > this is
> > > > what I have gathered from being a surf-guitar nut
> > for the last
> > 8
> > > or 9
> > > > years. I've asked this question on a variety of
> > lists and
> > forums.
> > > But
> > > > I'd love to be recalibrated. Maybe some of you
> > older guys
> > remember
> > > > what strings you used? ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Players used to have to mix and match sets and
> > even use banjo
> > > strings
> > > > if they wanted a lighter set or an unwound
> > (plain) G string.
> > > >
> > > > I do vaguely remember Paul Johnson confirming
> > this, but I
> > could be
> > > > wrong. It doesn't sound to me like Dick Dale was
> > using flats,
> > nor
> > > Hank
> > > > Marvin. But what do I know? I'd love to know what
> > The
> > Astronauts
> > > used.
> > > >
> > > > BN
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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