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> How can you tell the difference between a Strat and a Jag on his
> stuff? I don't think I can.
Well first nothing is 100% But....
I've listened to the Showmen a lot, in-fact we really studied some
of Eddie's tones in-depth when we recorded. We really had nothing
better to do :) and got a little crazy with it. But it was rather
fun. We specter analized some of the high end stuff on the Showmen
CD and then matched the specters up on our tracks(these aren't on
the final album, but we thought we'd try it anyway. I think if you
have the technology why not play around?). Oddly enough, the first
thing Zak Izbinsky and Gregg Hunt told me when they heard our
recordings was, "sounds kinda like Eddie Bertrand."
Ever listen to the descending riff Eddie plays on Dark Eyes? I
really think that's a Jag with flatwounds. Our producer though,
Eddie may have had a second line going to the board, because it's so
thuddy and clear. But really I think that's what a Jaguar with
flats through a Dual Showman sounds like.
Squad Car, Scratch and Mr. Rebel all sound like a Jaguar when
compared to We Are The Young, and when you listen to the other vocal
tracks the Showmen were doing at the time We Are the Young was
recorded, which by the way sound like a Strat, you can compare those
tones to the tones on We Are the Young, and things start to match
up.
Doug Hensen also told me so, he was there! So there!!! :P
> I was just listening to the Finks this weekend, and then I popped
in
> Savage Island by the Bomboras, which I hadn't listented to in
quite a
> while. I'm a huge fan of the later Bomboras stuff, but I forgot
how
> good Savage Island is, too. It appears that you prefer the Finks
> stuff. I find it hard to understand how you could say that
Gregg's
> Finks playing is better than in the Bomboras but it's OK, we can
all
> have our own opinions. For what it's worth, though I enjoy the
> Finks, to me they always sound as though they just were just
trying
> to copy rather than create. They're lacking in character, whereas
> both the Bomboras and the Huntington Cads had character in
oodles.
> You KNEW it was these bands when you heard them and I can't say
that
> about the Finks. But I suspect that we'll just have to agree to
> disagree...
Hmmm, I wouldn't say the Finks were better than the Bomboras. I
think I prefer the Bomboras, but I also wouldn't say they were
better than the Finks. As for lacking character, I couldn't
disagree with you more. Just by looking at the cover of Fill'er Up
and Go, reading the liner notes and listening to that Lo-Fi
recording you can really hear some magic that those first wave surf
bands had. It's actually slightly romantic when you thikn about
it. I really like my trad. looking and sounding surf bands, and I
think those have more character than some of these foogies in t-
shirts I see in surf bands. But this all depends on how you define
character, it sounds like you're talking about distinguishing
someones sound from other bands. Some rather shitty bands have
character in that regard.
> Gosh, Bill, I sense a bit of hostility. What's up?
Nothing is "up" that didn't mean to come off as hostile. Why beat
our brains out arguing our personal preferences? That's all my point
was.
> Umm, when did I ever recommend that any bands stop using
> Jags/Jazzmasters? Nope, did no such thing. In fact, it seems to
me
> that those two guitars are much more common among today's surf
bands
> than the Strat. That's the only thing that I'm trying to resist -
> the idea that one can't play good sounding surf music on a Strat.
Hmmm, when did I say YOU said surf bands should stop using Jags/JMs?
I never said one can't play good sounding surf on a Strat. I think
Jim Messina and Dick Dale proved that in the 60s, and Gregg Hunt did
in the 90s.
> Listen, I think you misunderstood what I meant. I LOVE seeing
surf
> bands with Jazzmasters and Jaguars! Love both guitars (well, the
Jag
> never felt right to me, but I don't hold that against the guitar),
> and love their tones (in the right hands - Randy Holden, Eddie
> Bertrand, it's a long, long list). Having the offsets in the band
> definitely does signal that you're a Surf Band. But I also sense
an
> effort from some people to somehow smear the Strat as a valid surf
> guitar. I just want to make sure that the Strat keeps its
rightful
> position among the three, that's all.
>
> Let Fender rule.
> Ivan
Ha, well you sure take this argument personally. I shouldn't have
responded with an agreence to Dano's claim. It's really not ALL
that important now is it?!
Bill
www.reluctantaquanauts.com
