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.. yup, wood, neck wood, actual make - the test described hardly
meets the scientific 'all other things being equal' standard.
Having said that, I am curious what a decent test would show. I have
read to that the mounting makes a differnce, yet I'm with marty in
not unerstanding how it would work electronically. this part:
> > > > The vibration of the pickup in response to the body provides
> > the richness of the tone, similar to the sound chamber of an
acoustic
> > guitar,
> > since the sound waves take longer to vibrated throught the body
to the
> > pickup.
doesn't make sense to me, since I always understood that the pick up
doesn't pick up mechanical vibrations - it induces a sine wave in the
magnet due to the string vibrations, but that works electronically
not mechanically. (sorry my terminology sucks in english)
then again, that's the theory, and as we all know reality hardly ever
conforms to theory (damned reality!).
So, if any one has more light to shed on the subject, it would be
greatly appreciated!
WR
--- In , "Jacob Dobner"
<jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
>
> What is the type of wood in both guitars? It could also be a
> difference in bridges that accounts for the added resonence. For
> example, Brian Setzer uses Gibson gibson bridges but he hollows his
> posts out for more resonence. Different tuners, nuts, stings, string
> age, difference in exactly where the pick ups are mounted, and
finish
> all can have effects on resonence.
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael S Springer
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Digesting the Concept that body
> resonance is picked up by pickups....
> >
> >
> > Marty,
> >
> > I have a 57-62 pickup mounted in the neck position of a
maplenecker
> > superstratoid with
> > a Strat type bridge very similar to a MIM Strat.
> > I have a 57-62 from the same set mounted in the neck position
> > of a maplenecker MIM.
> > The sound is very different, more than I think could be
accounted for
> > by the offset caused by a 24 fret neck.
> > The superstratoid sounds woody, the Strat sounds airy.
> >
> >
> > You see, it's more complex than that:
> > It took me a while to see it, but
> > not only is the string vibrating in relation to the pickup,
> > but the pickups are themselves vibrating in response to
> > vibrations transmitted from the bridge through the body through
their
> > mounts, either on the body or on a pickguard.
> >
> > > > The vibration of the pickup in response to the body provides
> > the richness of the tone, similar to the sound chamber of an
acoustic
> > guitar,
> > since the sound waves take longer to vibrated throught the body
to the
> > pickup.
> > I suspect body mounted pickups are vibrating <more>
> > than a pickguard mounted pickup, since plastic is not known for
being
> > as good a transmitter of resonance as wood....
> >
> > Also, if you change a Strat's pickup mounting screws from the
> stock alloy
> > ones
> > to stainless steel, you will get a different sound, proving
that the
> > pickups do
> > get some resonance from their mounting points.
> >
> > I have also heard that you can use a doublenecker guitar to
prove
> this:
> >
> > Plug in one of a double neckers two "guitars" into an amp, but
<play>
> > the other one... The plugged in neck's pickup's are picking up
body
> > resonance
> > from the other one.
> >
> > I also know of a guy that had his Yamaha Roadstar stratoclone
> modded so
> > that the pickups were body mounted <under> the pickguard. He
did
> it for
> > the tonal
> > change.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:58:28 -0700
> > From: "Marty Tippens" <mctippens@e...>
> > Subject: Re: Digest Number 1236
> >
> > I don't know about your pickup mount conclusions, Michael, when
> you say
> > body-mounted pickups give a thicker "woodier" sound (whatever
that
> is).
> > Magnetic pick-ups capture the sound of moving steel strings not
the
> > vibrations of the pickup mounts. I think that any signifcant
> difference
> > you are hearing between guitars with body mounted pickups vs
pickguard
> > mounted is the different pickups. For instance, super strats may
> have a
> > humbucker at the bridge position or hotter single coil pickups.
> >
> > -Marty
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael S Springer
> > To:
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Digest Number 1236
> >
> >
> > ...Both the Jaguar and the Jazzmaster have body mounted
pickups,
> > a trait shared with pickguardless "superstrats". This gives
the
> guitar
> > a
> > thicker
> > woodier sound. The Strats pickups are pickguard mounted.
> > Aside from giving the Strat part of it's sound characteristcs,
> > it makes it much easer to work on since most of the wiring and
> > electronics are
> > attached to the pickguard.
> > Loosen the strings, remove 11 screws and desolder 3 wires,
> > and the whole pickguard and everything attached to it comes
off.
> > It's practically modular. Very easy to see whats going on in
the
> > wiring
> > and modify it.
> > It's the most hot roddable guitar design there is!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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