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Alright Michael, if you're actually hearing a difference.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael S Springer
To:
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Digesting the Concept that body resonance is
picked up by pickups....
Marty,
I have a 57-62 pickup mounted in the neck position of a maplenecker
superstratoid with
a Strat type bridge very similar to a MIM Strat.
I have a 57-62 from the same set mounted in the neck position
of a maplenecker MIM.
The sound is very different, more than I think could be accounted for
by the offset caused by a 24 fret neck.
The superstratoid sounds woody, the Strat sounds airy.
You see, it's more complex than that:
It took me a while to see it, but
not only is the string vibrating in relation to the pickup,
but the pickups are themselves vibrating in response to
vibrations transmitted from the bridge through the body through their
mounts, either on the body or on a pickguard.
The vibration of the pickup in response to the body provides
the richness of the tone, similar to the sound chamber of an acoustic
guitar,
since the sound waves take longer to vibrated throught the body to the
pickup.
I suspect body mounted pickups are vibrating <more>
than a pickguard mounted pickup, since plastic is not known for being
as good a transmitter of resonance as wood....
Also, if you change a Strat's pickup mounting screws from the stock alloy
ones
to stainless steel, you will get a different sound, proving that the
pickups do
get some resonance from their mounting points.
I have also heard that you can use a doublenecker guitar to prove this:
Plug in one of a double neckers two "guitars" into an amp, but <play>
the other one... The plugged in neck's pickup's are picking up body
resonance
from the other one.
I also know of a guy that had his Yamaha Roadstar stratoclone modded so
that the pickups were body mounted <under> the pickguard. He did it for
the tonal
change.
Michael
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:58:28 -0700
From: "Marty Tippens" <>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1236
I don't know about your pickup mount conclusions, Michael, when you say
body-mounted pickups give a thicker "woodier" sound (whatever that is).
Magnetic pick-ups capture the sound of moving steel strings not the
vibrations of the pickup mounts. I think that any signifcant difference
you are hearing between guitars with body mounted pickups vs pickguard
mounted is the different pickups. For instance, super strats may have a
humbucker at the bridge position or hotter single coil pickups.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael S Springer
To:
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Digest Number 1236
...Both the Jaguar and the Jazzmaster have body mounted pickups,
a trait shared with pickguardless "superstrats". This gives the guitar
a
thicker
woodier sound. The Strats pickups are pickguard mounted.
Aside from giving the Strat part of it's sound characteristcs,
it makes it much easer to work on since most of the wiring and
electronics are
attached to the pickguard.
Loosen the strings, remove 11 screws and desolder 3 wires,
and the whole pickguard and everything attached to it comes off.
It's practically modular. Very easy to see whats going on in the
wiring
and modify it.
It's the most hot roddable guitar design there is!
Michael
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