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Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: inDigestible Sig Strat prices???

dave wronski (stickmandw) - 04 Apr 2005 10:51:21

The Clapton has a very powerful pre-amp that gets it's
power from a 9volt battery located in the spring
cavity. The lower pot controls the amount of boost. I
think it has a TBX tone pot located in the middle
position. I should know this, I build them almost
every day!
I don't know why you would have strings popping out of
the key like that unless the string is bent in such a
way that it's too long for the hole.
If you want to replace the keys on a MIJ or CIJ
Fender,
you will have to open up the headstock key holes a
little bit to accomodate the Gotoh vintage keys. This
is because those guitars use Ping brand keys, which
are made in Korea, and whose shaft is a little bit
smaller.
Scroll down this page
for Kinman's idea of string installation. I've never
tried it myself.
I don't know what keys the Q-series uses, but it's
probaly Ping. Also, the '66 Jaguars and Jazzmasters
that are being sold on Ishibashi website now use "F"
keys, and you will have a different hole pattern to
deal with if you want to use vintage style on those.
The vintage style Gotoh locking keys have the string
enter from th side.
-dave
--- Jacob Dobner <> wrote:
>
>
> The deal price is $1600.
>
> The pre-amp that you are talking about on the
> Clapton is that the TBX
> or something similar. I don't think those go on the
> Clapton strats
> anymore. I heard they took them off.
>
> And one more guitar question for you. I have a CIJ
> Jag which I really
> love. Gets more play than my Gretsch 6118-120T, for
> surf anyways which
> is all I play. I really am not a fan of the string
> in through the top
> tuners. The high e string always pops out on any
> guitar I have ever
> put strings that have those tuners. So my question
> is, do you know of
> technique to restring with those that makes it
> easier? And if not what
> are some non-top loading, quality, tuners that I
> could drop straight
> into the Jag. It is one of the Q-series CIJ Limited
> Edition ones that
> were sold through Musicians Friend and Music123 for
> $500.
>
> --- In , dave wronski
> <stickmandw@y...>
> wrote:
> > The pre-amp in the Clapton possibly was a part
> that
> > goes back to the Elite Strat. I'll check on that.
> It
> > is also use on other sig. guitars like the Buddy
> Guy,
> > and Sambora.
> >
> > The staggerd vintage keys are made by Gotoh, and
> were
> > also used on the Sambora Start. You can probably
> get
> > these from Allparts. They also make a staggered
> > vintage key that lock. Both of these key styles
> fit
> > orig. vintage hole pattern I have a couple sets of
> the
> > locking, but I haven't put them to enough of test
> to
> > tell you to buy them.
> >
> > What makes guitars expensive is when they have
> unique
> > features like battery cutouts, like the Clapton,
> Buddy
> > Guy,or Sambora.Because they limit the rework
> > opportunitys.
> >
> > The first time someone screws a back cover on an
> EJ,
> > that body is junk. It can't be used for another
> model
> > because of the nice big scoop cutaway in the back.
>
> >
> > This is the only production guitar where every
> neck
> > must be a quarter-sawn piece of wood. That is a
> very
> > expensive cut of wood.
> >
> > The thin laquer body paint looks and sounds cool.
> > Other laquer guitars have a polyester undercoat
> which
> > affects the look and sound of the guitar.
> >
> > Is that true that it retails, not the deal price,
> is
> > around $1600? Fender has a 50% markup, so that
> sounds
> > like it could be an OK price.
> >
> > -dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Jacob Dobner <jacobdobner@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > The Clapton Strat has a decent amount of stuff
> > > designed for his
> > > guitar. But the reason I can figure EC's is
> cheaper
> > > while EJ's is more
> > > exspensive is because more people want a Clapton
> > > strat.
> > >
> > > It would be really cool to see the staggered
> tuners
> > > to see what those
> > > are about.
> > >
> > > I am not a big fan of zero radius instruments.
> My
> > > 'Ukulele, which I
> > > love, has a zero radius and it makes it much
> hard to
> > > play than a
> > > guitar. The smaller frets hurt that as well. I
> > > really need a radius
> > > because I have messed up my fretting hand
> several
> > > times playing baseball.
> > >
> > > --- In , Michael S
> > > Springer
> > > <springerms@j...> wrote:
> > > > Yeah, the price on the EJ Strat seems high,
> > > > when compared with the Clapton and SRV Strats,
> > > > <but> if you've read the shtick in the 2005
> > > Frontlines about
> > > > them, it makes sense:
> > > >
> > > > 1. The pickups are a unique design to Eric
> > > Johnson's specs.
> > > > Most guys just specify a pre-existing pickup-
> not
> > > EJ!
> > > >
> > > > 2. The radius on the neck is way unusual for
> > > vintage style
> > > > Fender necks, meaning they are not just
> pulling a
> > > neck from
> > > > a different model, and slapping a different
> decal,
> > > or even different
> > > > frets onnit. That's a major variation, not a
> > > minor tweak.
> > > >
> > > > 3. There are a <lot> of other odd little
> tweaks in
> > > the guitar that
> > > > <have> to require more time, if not money to
> do.
> > > > Oh yeah- It has staggered <vintage> style
> > > tuners...
> > > > I've never heard of those before- has anybody?
> > > > That means specially machined parts!
> > > > The staggered tuners I've heard of are normal
> > > enclosed tuners
> > > > on the American Strats.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, when you consider all that, maybe it's
> not
> > > such a high price
> > > > after all.
> > > >
> > > > I also understand the objection to the flat
> > > radius,
> > > > but flatter radii are common on shredder
> guitars,
> > > > and as shredders get older, they may follow
> the
> > > general
> > > > trend of aging players becoming interested in
> more
> > > vintage
> > > > flavored gear, but still want a flatter neck
> > > radius.
> > > > In that case, the EJ Strat is the only game in
> > > town.
> > > >
> > > > And regarding the comment about Marty Tippens-
> > > > there is already one Custom Shop signature
> model
> > > > dedicated to a surf guitarist, the Dick Dale
> > > Strat.
> > > > So surf guitar has <some> representation in
> the
> > > Fender catalog!
> > > > Ya can't have <everything>! ;^)
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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