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True enough... I must say I never quite understood how
that all worked for and against them. I've always had
a love-hate kind of view of them.
I saw them several times live in the eighties and
nineties, always very dissapointed at the near-dead
nature of their stage presence and playing - mostly
with Jerry Reed. It just seemed like their pose was
saying we are the Ventures, love us, we need not
entertain. Not to overstate, but all of the shows were
quite dissapointing - extremely low energy - as if
they had already retired.
--- Marty Tippens <> wrote:
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Yes, Phil,
The Ventures put out some stuff that was purdy
schmaltzy. The nearly disco period is indeed the worst
of the Ventures eras BUT it came at a time when they
were not under their "grind out another" album work
ethic. It came in the mid '70's and was the lone
domestic album for several years before and after. On
the other hand, "Journey to the Stars" , "RapCity" and
the other great Ventures recordings you mention came
right in the middle of their "grind out another album"
period.
-Marty
----- Original Message -----
From: Phil Dirt
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [SurfGuitar101] Re: Getting started
with The Shadows
Marty, my friend...
--- mctippens <> wrote:
> I did and do agree that the Ventures were
> definitely focused on the business end of
> music BUT not to the cost of their creative
> performance.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but some of their
releases were/are positively embarrassing. They
clearing did some magnificent things, but their
"grind
out another album" work plan generated some real
mung
too. Their nearly disco period is the worst, right
along with the early eighties sataellites are fun
sessions. Yikes, I shiver just to think about it,
especially when compared to "Journey To The Stars"
or
"Rap City" or "Ten Seconds To Heaven" or "Damaged
Goods" or "The Lonely Sea."
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