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Re: [SurfGuitar101] Using scales and "playing over the fifth"

Dan Bartley (bigtwangguy) - 24 Feb 2005 18:14:21

I think both approaches work. Sometimes a riff or hook will evolve into a great
song without any thought of scales. Yet, it's also fun to decide on a particular
scale/sound/feel to write a song in as well. Here's what I did for the most
recent song of mine. I came up with the chord progression first, then invented
the melody. What a pleasant surprise when it was finished. I never would have
come up with that melody if I had started with the riff, or scale(s) first.
BTW, I don't have a web site to post my songs on but I'd love have input on
them. I just do little demos here at home for possible use in a real studio. If
anyone wants a listen I can email an MP3.
Cheers
Dan
Richard <> wrote:
How many of you guys that write riffs write them with
a particular scale in mind, like "I'm going to fiddle
around in E harmonic minor until I come up with
something I like"? How many people ignore scales
completely when they write and just play until
something comes out that sounds good?
A friend of mine who is a bedroom player and a great
(in his own mind, of course) critic of music (but
never does anything...yeah, one of those) told me
while we were attending the Crimson Ghosts/Phantom
Creeps show here a while back during one of John and
Gein's instro numbers that a lot of the lead work in
guitar driven instro music is done "over the fifth,"
as in whatever root chord/bass note is being played by
the bass/rhythm guitar, the lead guitar player will be
playing in the key of the fifth of the root as opposed
to the root, like if the rhythm player is strumming an
A then the lead guitar will play it's riff in E.
I didn't really pay attention at the time as I was
just enjoying the show, but I've always meant to post
here and ask if there was anything to that statement.
I have never played guitar with another stringed
instrument, only drums, so I've never really had much
of an opportunity to try these things out for myself.
Richard
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