FlatRacer
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 11:06 AM
Does anyone happen to know what guage strings Mikko Lankinen uses on his Squire Strat?
I've heard he uses a Vox AC30 clone for an amp. Anyone know anything more specific?
I got a look at his pedalboard, but I should have taken notes. I remember seeing a Gov'nor distortion box. What else is there?
Thanks,
Eric
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DannySnyder
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 12:02 PM
Not to be flippant but you'd need to graft Mikko's hands onto your arms to sound like that guy. His sound is all in his technique.
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FlatRacer
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 12:47 PM
DannySnyder
Not to be flippant but you'd need to graft Mikko's hands onto your arms to sound like that guy. His sound is all in his technique.
Mikko playing my gear would sound "just a little" different than him playing his own. It's precisely that difference which I'm inquiring about.
You'd be surprised how close I can come to Mikko's playing without needing a hand transplant. With every blessing comes a curse, though. My skill as a mimic is largely nullified by my dismal failure as a songwriter. To me, the true genius of a Mikko lies not with the mechanics of playing, but with the imagination to invent not only new music, but music that's interesting. Anybody can write crappy music. Even I can write crappy songs. 95% of original music is crap. Thankfully, we don't often get to hear it as only the cream rises to the top.
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JakeDobner
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 01:19 PM
Instead of the gauge of string he uses, you should be asking what brand and type he uses.
You want to copy what gear he uses and such. How about you try copying his songwriting and attempt to write something new. If you can sound just like him, you say, then how about you figure how what chord voicings he uses, what scales, major/minor, and so on.
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 01:22 PM
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Stormtiger
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 01:24 PM
Mikko would sound the same using any strings or any guitar. That is not the answer.
He uses a Strat and a Jaguar interchangeably.
As I understand it he built his own amp, I suggest viewing the videos and photos from their last tour to get a view of his effects and technique.
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DannySnyder
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 01:44 PM
In a related note, Ivan conducted a comprehensive interview with the band in the latest issue of The Continental. It may not cover string gauges but it is fascinating to find out more about this incredible band.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac'
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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FlatRacer
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 03:30 PM
JakeDobner
Instead of the gauge of string he uses, you should be asking what brand and type he uses.
You want to copy what gear he uses and such. How about you try copying his songwriting and attempt to write something new. If you can sound just like him, you say, then how about you figure how what chord voicings he uses, what scales, major/minor, and so on.
Thanks to YouTube, I have the correct chord voicings and inversions (those songs not on video just take a little longer to tease apart). What I don't have is his incredible tone. Clean and full. I've seen them live and his live tone is even better than on the CDs!
Mikko has become my favorite "slowhand" player. What I mean by that is he gets so much feeling out of every note that he doesn't need to lean on the crutch of playing a lot of notes very quickly. He makes every note count much like David Gilmour. For my tastes, one Mikko or Gilmour or Billy Gibbons is worth a whole army of Satrianis, Vais, or Malmsteens.
As for my songwriting, dismal as it is, I will give it another try. Perhaps if I immerse myself in enough Floyd, Laika and Trower, and get my head in the right place, I could come up with something better than the dreck I've written in the past.
Thanks for the kick in the ass, Jake.
Eric
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JakeDobner
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 03:35 PM
I thought you said your tone is like his, not your playing. My misunderstanding.
You definitely got the right idea in getting the technique and proper voicings down.
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 05:45 PM
FlatRacer
Perhaps if I immerse myself in enough Floyd, Laika and Trower, and get my head in the right place, I could come up with something better than the dreck I've written in the past.
Eric
Yup just listen to what you like all the time, and write. And write sparsely! Don't try to write the musical equivalent of "the Great American Novel" or wherever you're from. Just write an A and B part, and keep it simple... Write 50 or so, and you'll start getting somewhere!
The hard part is going back over those 50 songs and turning them into 5 good ones... 
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 07:47 PM
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FlatRacer
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 10:06 PM
I'm not putting anyone down. Please let me explain:
Most of my playing is in cover bands and tribute bands where playing songs and solos note for note receives high praise and there is no room for improvisation.
On the rare occasion when I have room to improvise, I do fine until I run out of ideas. Sooner or later I grab the old "super fast pentatonic crutch" and proceed to lean on it. Most of the audience seems to like it, but I feel cheap when I do it, like I cheated on my midterm (I'm my own worst critic).
Players who spend a good deal of their time playing fast, even the great ones, wear me out as a listener. For example, there's no doubt that Danny Gatton was a great player, but I find I can't listen to an entire album of his in one sitting. I feel punch drunk and exhausted by the end of it. I seem to have lost the ability to listen to music (especially guitar music) without over analyzing it. Instead of letting it wash over me so I can enjoy it, I focus in on the details and begin to pick it apart from the get go. This is why, as I said "for my taste" I seem to like slower players lately. Malmsteen is a phenomenal player. Blows my mind every time, but I can't remember a single song he's done. Laika's melodies stick with me.
Just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.
Eric
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CrispyGoodness
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Posted on Aug 21 2009 06:23 PM
One thing about Mikko that is unique is his liberal use of the guitars' vibrato arm instead of using his fingers. When I saw him play, he always had his pick between his thumb and index finger, and his vibrato arm between his third and forth fingers, and gave that rascal a good wiggle on any note played longer than a whole beat. It's a big part of what makes the man sound so good.
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IvanP
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Posted on Aug 22 2009 12:09 PM
FlatRacer
Mikko has become my favorite "slowhand" player. What I mean by that is he gets so much feeling out of every note that he doesn't need to lean on the crutch of playing a lot of notes very quickly.
Eric, a few others have commented on this point already, but I just wanted to mention that having seen L&TC live something like five times, I can tell you that I also heard them play unbelievably fast, maybe faster than any other surf band. When they did Bahareeba live, things would get very intense. It's unfair to Mikko - and a one-dimensional way of thinking of him - to just label him a 'slowhand' player. He's very versatile and able to get aggressive and, yes, very fast when it's required. No need to limit ourselves to thinking of good musicians as just being one way or another, good musicians are usually all of the above.
(I just watched some old footage of Les Paul, and here's a player that could play with so much emotion AND speed, often times in the same song! Or how about Django Reinheardt?)
CrispyGoodness
One thing about Mikko that is unique is his liberal use of the guitars' vibrato arm instead of using his fingers. When I saw him play, he always had his pick between his thumb and index finger, and his vibrato arm between his third and forth fingers, and gave that rascal a good wiggle on any note played longer than a whole beat. It's a big part of what makes the man sound so good.
I think this is a very good point. It's the Hank Marvin influence, which is very common in Euro instro music, but pretty much completely absent among Americans. I don't think I know of a single American player that plays in this style, continuously keeping the vibrato bar lodged in the right hand. Most American surf players just reach for it here and there to lower the pitch instead of giving it a good shake...
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FlatRacer
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Posted on Aug 23 2009 08:12 PM
It's the Hank Marvin influence, which is very common in Euro instro music, but pretty much completely absent among Americans. I don't think I know of a single American player that plays in this style, continuously keeping the vibrato bar lodged in the right hand. Most American surf players just reach for it here and there to lower the pitch instead of giving it a good shake...
Very astute observation, The only other guy who I can think of who does that is Jeff Beck.
BTW, I shared the bill this weekend with a guy in a country band who said his amp was based on the Vox AC30. I remembered the comment about Mikko's amp being an AC30 clone, so I asked if I could try it. There it was! Mikko's tone. I've just learned Fadeaway, so I played that through the amp. Nailed the sound exactly! The amp was a Dr. Z Mazerati combo w/ 2 10" Webers.
Eric
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Ruhar
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Posted on Aug 24 2009 11:29 AM
What impressed me most about Mikko's playing when I saw him was the extreme amount of tension and emotion that comes out in his playing while his external expression is fairly cold and quiet. Its really an amazing thing to watch. You can tell that he puts 100% of his soul into every note he plays and you can feel an incredible amount of tension there. Someone might be able to mimic the technical tone, but its that heartbreaking tension he has that would be way more elusive to mimic.
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