archimedes
Joined: Dec 10, 2006
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Posted on Aug 03 2009 04:39 PM
Hey Guys,
I have been a lurker and occasional poster on here for 3 or 4 years. Been a fan of surf music for nearly twelve years and strive for a traditional surf sound with my gear. I play a Jazzmaster which has a Swamp Ash body that i built and finished, a CIJ neck, an AVRI Trem, and SD Antiquity II pickups. I own a 90's (not sure which year for sure) Fender Reverb Tank Reissue that has the C10 mod and NOS tubes including the 6K6. I have been spoiled by the depth, warmth, liveliness, and the "drip" of the tube unit. Ideally, I would love to have something that sounds as good as the tube unit but is much smaller, reliable, and easier to transport. So, when I saw this pedal was introduced I couldn't help but get a little excited. I wanted this pedal to be amazing and be a cheaper way to get a great Surf reverb sound in a much more compact package. Ordered mine from Proguitarshop.com the day it went on sale which was Thursday of last week, I think. It came in today and I've spent around an hour and a half playing it alone, at first, and then comparing it to my tube unit.
First off: Does it sound like the Fender tube reverb unit?
In some ways, Yes. It sounds very natural in the decay to my ears and is noticeably closer to the tube units depth and spring characteristics than other digital delays. It has a "drip" that increases with the dwell knob that sounds ok, BUT... nothing like the natural wet attack of the tube unit. It sounded more like a "clack" than a "drip". There were some other differences in the eq-ing of the Boss pedal. It had a mid-emphasis that tended to make the decays sounds more muddy than the tube unit. The pedal also lacks the wide and spacious 3-d like quality and the shimmery high end.
It was very reminiscent of the tube unit superficially, but fell somewhat flat when A/Bing them back and forth. Many people would not even care about the differences I'm pointing out, but most everyone on here who plays the actual tube unit will notice this right off the bat and many would most likely despise the pedal for the fact that it tries to emulate said unit but fails in many aspects.
Now...
The more I played the pedal alone, the more I liked it. When I was not comparing the two sounds I found myself very impressed with how much better and "realistic" it sounded compared to other digital reverbs. Up against other digital reverbs like the EHX Holy Grails, the Digiverb, Malekko Spring Chicken and other I think it sounds much more like the tube unit. All of these pedals sounds great and can be used easily for nice spring reverb sounds, but I wanted to review this pedal from the perspective of a surf-guitarist first off. I'm not sure if I will keep the pedal or not. I also bought a Spring Chicken a few weeks ago, and although it is a really cool pedal, I have not use for what it can do. I feel I could use the Boss reverb for practice and may even work for backup for some people.
So... in conclusion...
As a standard digital delay I give it an 8/10. Very useable and realistic spring reverb sounds.
As a replacement for the tube unit I give it a 4 or 5/10. I feel like we are getting closer with digital technology, but some things just have not been accurately reproduced when trying to emulate analog sounds like tubes and springs.
Tim
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Thunderhead
Joined: Apr 11, 2009
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Posted on Aug 03 2009 06:27 PM
Thanks for all the great info. If you don't mind telling, what did it cost out the door www.myspace.com/thethunderheads
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archimedes
Joined: Dec 10, 2006
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Posted on Aug 03 2009 08:38 PM
No problem! I was excited about the pedal and in some ways still very pleased with it, so naturally I wanted to share some of my initial reactions with it. Maybe I will give another review after playing full volume with my bandmates this week.
It is $119 from Pro guitar shop. $129 from most other places. I just got lucky that they happened to be one of the cheaper places to buy from, I guess. I was watching their website because the photo and info came up a week before it went on sale. I knew it was just a matter of time before they were able to sell them.
Tim
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Unadan
Joined: Jul 30, 2009
Posts: 9
Oregon City, OR
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Posted on Aug 03 2009 10:16 PM
Nice review. I a/b'd one of these a few days ago with a Digiverb. I thought the Digiverb's Spring setting sounded much more realistic vs. the FRV. Just my personal preference. I bought the Digiverb new for $80 so it was also cheaper than the FRV.
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archimedes
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Posted on Aug 03 2009 11:27 PM
I owned a Digiverb a few years back and was very happy with it until I picked up the tube unit. It definitely does the "drip" attack in a more convincing way than the FRV-1. Although, if I recall correctly, it could not get anywhere near as deep a mix as the tube unit and (I'm going off of memory here) I feel like the decay and depth of the FRV-1 can do a better impersonation. I liked the Digiverb a lot. These days I find myself loving the sound of the original unit so much that its the only reverb sound I care to use and the only change I could possibly want is something that is smaller and easier to transport. But, I can never complain once I play a chord or two and hear that amazing sound that still goes unrivaled IMHO .
Tim
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4542
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Aug 03 2009 11:33 PM
Thanks for the review archimedes. I have one on order with the right to return it if it doesn't sound good to me. I suspect that I'll keep it because I tend to be a packrat but one never knows. Your findings are about what I would expect from a pedal that is trying to emulate a tube device. I'm sure that it's a valiant effort on their part but you can only do so much with modeling.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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morphball
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
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Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Aug 04 2009 09:21 AM
Thanks for the review, I was interested in this as a "traveler" (something I can throw in my luggage when visiting musician-friends out-of-state), and get a reasonably good surf-verb. I'll lower my expectations and maybe wait for one used. I do wish the AmpliTube folks would do a dedicated pedal, it's definitely the best reverb modeling I've heard so far.
— Mike
http://www.youtube.com/morphballio
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eddiewagner
Joined: Aug 12, 2006
Posts: 77
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 06:17 AM
thanks for the review. i just can“t wait to get one.
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surferjoemusic
Joined: Jan 01, 2008
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Livorno
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 08:40 AM
I'm very interested... I need a spare reverb in case my unit break, and I was checking the Danelectro's and now this new Boss unit. I think I will get one and test it...
— Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini
(www.surfmusic.net)
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eddiewagner
Joined: Aug 12, 2006
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 09:48 AM
how does it sound when the drummer kicks in? can you get the sound across in a band situation? that would be very interesting to know.
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Staredge
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
Posts: 1149
Damascus, Maryland
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 10:02 AM
I think I'm more interested in a comparison between it and the Digiverb. There is no substitute for a tank, so comparing the two isn't fair. The Digiverb seems to be the highest rated of the 'verb pedals, but from the above it seems like maybe this is a little better....yes?
I'm getting a tank someday, but I have a hard time justifying it (well....to the wife. I'm sold) when i only play in my bedroom through a Champ 600. If I can find one for $350 or so, I might bite in a few months but freeing up $100 for a pedal is a little easier to hide......err.....manage. ;)
— Will
"You're done, once you're a surfer you're done. You're in. It's like the mob or something. You're not getting out." - Kelly Slater
The Luau Cinders
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4542
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 10:16 AM
eddiewagner
how does it sound when the drummer kicks in? can you get the sound across in a band situation? that would be very interesting to know.
That's a good point. Sometimes digital effects sound OK at lower volumes and then you take them out on a gig and they are pretty disappointing at gig volume.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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surferXmatt
Joined: Aug 27, 2008
Posts: 1570
New York
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 10:17 AM
No matter how good this pedal could be.. I would imagine a pedal like the Spring King from Danelectro with actual springs in it would be superior and a better choice. It is based off of reality not solely digital implements.
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D22
Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 10:30 AM
The Gomez G-Spring is spared discontinuation. 
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DeadRanchHands
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 10:47 AM
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 11:21 AM
DGG
The Gomez G-Spring is spared discontinuation. 
Sort of a david vs Goliath moment. Somehow I think there was never any serious threat that a stomp box would dethrone the real thing.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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D22
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 12:21 PM
synchro
DGG
The Gomez G-Spring is spared discontinuation. 
Sort of a david vs Goliath moment. Somehow I think there was never any serious threat that a stomp box would dethrone the real thing.
Tongue in cheek.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4542
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 01:59 PM
DGG
Tongue in cheek.
Indeed.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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goon
Joined: Apr 06, 2009
Posts: 81
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 05:08 AM
Howdie,
jsut found a new youtube review for the FRV - near the middle end he turns up dwell and tone in a more surf orientated vibe. There is a bit of drip there, but doesn't sound too punchy or poppy. It could be other elements in his setup too though.
Anyway, i'd be interested to hear verdicts as i'm thinking of getting one of these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks0WBZFLe8I
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alienated institution, the market is neither hostile nor friendly, simply detached and
cold.
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topsail
Joined: Jun 10, 2009
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Posted on Aug 20 2009 06:43 AM
Well, that sounds more like it.
I may order one to demo and if it's not better than what I'm currently using (Peavey Digi Reverb) I'll send it back.
I've also been considering the Dano pedal.
Just can't afford a tube unit right now and like the size of pedals. Most of my gigs are low-key type duo (guitar & harp).
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