I am looking for a nice reverb but am reluctant to get a reverb tank. Dave Wronski mentioned this pedal to me, though he says that he hasn't tried it. Does anyone out there have any experience with this pedal?
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![]() Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 5 New Jersey |
I am looking for a nice reverb but am reluctant to get a reverb tank. Dave Wronski mentioned this pedal to me, though he says that he hasn't tried it. Does anyone out there have any experience with this pedal? |
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Well it's modelled after the reverb in a blackface not a tank. However, it just sounds like a decent digital reverb to me, so I doubt anyone here would argue that it's a replacement for a tank .... unless you don't like the sound of tanks! Here's a sound-clip where he A/Bs it with the reverb in a blackface. Trouble is that he's playing lush soft chords - which is guaranteed NOT to emphasise the difference between two reverbs - you need transients. Then he goes on to use it with a 'rock' sound supplied by one of his own amps - which I have to say I find a pretty nasty 'rock' sound ... so make of it what you will. The Boss Fender '63 pedal may not be brilliant, but it sounds a lot more like a tank than this does to me. http://www.leejackson.com/mp3/MRSpringgy-Live.mp3 —http://www.myspace.com/thepashuns Youth and enthusiasm are no match for age and treachery. |
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I believe most digital pedals use some sort of sampling method to create effects. I remember when i first used a soundfont editor with my SB Live! soundcard, i was amazed how tiny a fragment of sample could be used. Basically for standard midi sounds they just looped these samples sounds very fast and passed them through ADSR (Attack - Decay - Sustain - Release)
I later used very large sized wave samples which was so much more lush to the ear. I Wouldn't be surprised if the technology for a fairly decent reverb emulation isn't already here but from a manufacturing point of view (price and profit) i can't see them throwing in a couple of gigs of memory into a pedal, i'm sure they'd much rather expand the software side of readably available processors. As estreet mentioned a few months ago, digitaly you can't bathe in the after reflections of previous notes. Reflections are incredibly complex math. I use a Holy Grail pedal for practice.. it's ok.. am i happy? NO! |
![]() Joined: Feb 23, 2007 Posts: 1650 Santa Rosa, CA ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A fellow in our area has a pedal company "Tone Candy" He asked if he could come by and listen to my Gomez G-Spring as he's working on a reverb pedal...he brought along a Mr Springy..he didn't like it but said people were raving about it. I tried it out and did not like it either..the reverb effect died off way too fast and no knob turning would help...slap back reverb...I imagine for some applications the pedal would be fine...not for surf...imo — |
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Its about how the last note you played shocks the spring that is still vibrating with notes of a different pitch from a while ago. This is such an analog scenario with such a high randomness factor that I think digital reverbs will have to work in totally different way to truly emulate it. Given that there are not a huge amount of people who want their digital reverbs to sound just like springs - they probably never will. The Line6 Verbzilla and the Lexicon in my studio imitate the 'drip' after a fashion, but because they cant simulate the process I described above - every single drip is identical. All a digital reverb is really, is a lot of different delays that sample the signal and play it back at a multitude of different delay times until the individual repeats become so blurred you cant distinguish them. Its not a good system for imitating what happens in a tank. —http://www.myspace.com/thepashuns Youth and enthusiasm are no match for age and treachery. |
![]() Joined: Sep 23, 2008 Posts: 349 Montclair, NJ |
None of these digital units can hit the outboard tank reverb zone. But the good ones do have their uses. I kinda doubt surf music is well served by these pedals. The best I've heard is the Dr. Scientist RRR (doesn't even have a spring setting), and the very simple but rather tasty Hermida reverb. The Hermida works well for me, but not if I want a wetter kind of reverb. |
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Has anyone tried the Malekko Spring Chicken? http://www.malekkoheavyindustry.com/index.php?page=spring-chicken |