Tuck
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Denver, CO
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Posted on Apr 29 2009 04:51 PM
From that description of BTD (and thanks BBO) I think it was "the 710." There were signs about Long Beach as I recall. After trying to escape to the west by side streets and instinctive navigation (wrong move) I got turned around and eventually found some very non-pleasure industrial type docks. I remember at one point being in a place where signs kept saying that the road wasn't safe because the land moved. That was to the east. Finally I found the freeway "end" again and went north until I found the intersection with the freeway (whatever the number it was) that I had thought I was on in the first place. (Did I mention also touring a place called Torrance? Apparently Torrance vile.) If I seemed a little out of it on Sunday this extensive wee hours tour of "South Bay" may have been why. Or, if it wasn't that it may have been the Insect Surfer flashbacks.
This sort of navigational issue is rarer in the Eastern West. "The I-25" sort of deadends against "the I-90" up in Montana, but at least it's a T intersection and you have hours of time as you approach it to chew your cud and meditate on what you'll do when it happens. Of course, if you mess up, you also have hours of time until you reach an overpass where you can loop around and head back the other way ... 
Ted, noted that South Bay in mainly a matter of dueling guitars when not a matter of locality or lineage or less reverb. I know most of the guitar parts sound "more complicated" to me in South Bay. I definitely have those Rare Surf collections. Four of them. I seem to remember that Dalley quotes the Nocturnes on recording in Downey as saying that the studio used way too much reverb, and when they called out to "turn it down" the guy at the desk called back that he already has it turned up all the way! I also recall something about the "must use" studio drum kit and how undesirable it was. On the other hand, the Rumblers seem to have approved the way the place did drums. (And got to use their own kit, though with the snare deleted at times.)
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remora1
Joined: Jan 04, 2008
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San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Apr 29 2009 05:02 PM
Tuck, did the sign look like this?
If that's the case it sounds like you were on Palos Verdes Drive South which takes you through San Pedro and eventually to the start of the 110 (Harbor) freeway.
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Stormtiger
Joined: Dec 12, 2006
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Ventura, CA
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Posted on Apr 29 2009 05:20 PM
remora1
Tuck, did the sign look like this?
If that's the case it sounds like you were on Palos Verdes Drive South which takes you through San Pedro and eventually to the start of the 110 (Harbor) freeway.
There aren't any non-pleasure industrial piers near Portuguese Bend. He must have been in Wilmington/Harbor City, west of the 710.
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remora1
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San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Apr 29 2009 05:32 PM
Stormtiger said:> There aren't any non-pleasure industrial piers near Portuguese Bend. He must have been in Wilmington/Harbor City, west of the 710.
Yeah, I know. I thought he might have got his sequence of events mixed up. It's also the only road in the area I know of that has posted landslide warnings.
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Tuck
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Denver, CO
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Posted on Apr 30 2009 01:05 PM
Well, I intended this more as a discussion of South Bay music than how I got lost in LA and saw a lot more of it than I intended on my way back to Huntington Beach from Hermosa Beach. I don't recall the Portuguese being involved, but the sign was certainly very like the one displayed, and by later reconstruction I was in a little peninsula over east of Long Beach. I covered a VERY wide range of territory once I fell off the freeway. It was the wrong freeway. I wanted the next one over, and hadn't yet twigged that signs warning of impending freeways come several miles from the actual freeway in California. In Colorado they mean, "Now, you idiot! Right here!" not "Would you be interested in experiencing a freeway a little later?" I got on some kind of a ramp that loomed up, even though it didn't look quite right, and the next thing you know I was on a freeway. I was pretty happy for a while till I saw that thing about "Freeway ends." From then on it would have been pretty funny if it had been happening to someone else. I know men are famous for not stopping and asking for directions, but at 2:00 AM in the downtown part of a strange city that struck me as a good rule of thumb and I adhered to it rigorously.
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