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Pipeline-Pete Joined: Jun 08, 2008 Posts: 1 SF BAY	Posted on Feb 06 2009 10:18 AM I'm hoping someone can help a newbie.....I can't find any tabs for Ali Baba. Being a real beginner I realize this may be a bit advanced ,but what the heck ,I like a challenge and love the music.. Thanks, Pete. Top
surferXmatt Joined: Aug 27, 2008 Posts: 1570 New York	Posted on Feb 06 2009 10:30 AM Pete, I don't have a tab for this but it is actually a pretty easy song. I think you can learn this one by ear, if you take a little time with it. Check out The Bitch Boys version of Ali Baba, it is really well done! Good luck. Top
BillyBlastOff Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1070 Ventura County, Calif.	Posted on Feb 06 2009 10:31 AM Pipeline-Pete I'm hoping someone can help a newbie.....I can't find any tabs for Ali Baba. Being a real beginner I realize this may be a bit advanced ,but what the heck ,I like a challenge and love the music.. Thanks, Pete. Here Pete, Try some Visual tab. Even comes with a 3 Stooges act. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXnOUkouIOM — Be careful following the masses. Sometimes the "M" is silent........................... Last edited: Feb 06, 2009 11:02:57 Top
surferXmatt Joined: Aug 27, 2008 Posts: 1570 New York	Posted on Feb 06 2009 10:34 AM That is one way to do it as well. Top
zak Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2728	Posted on Feb 12 2009 09:15 PM This post has been removed by the author. Last edited: Sep 28, 2009 00:33:03 Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11062 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Feb 12 2009 09:30 PM I suggest you wrap your brain around what notes you need to play and where they're located, then concentrate on the actual recording to hear the phrasing of the melody. That's where tabs really falter, so it's better to rely on your ear and to develop your own sense of timing. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
zak Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2728	Posted on Feb 12 2009 09:32 PM This post has been removed by the author. Last edited: Sep 28, 2009 00:33:19 Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11062 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Feb 12 2009 09:35 PM well that too, but if one goes back to the recording with a critical ear as I suggest they should be able to pick up on that. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
zak Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2728	Posted on Feb 12 2009 09:39 PM This post has been removed by the author. Last edited: Sep 28, 2009 00:33:33 Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11062 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Feb 12 2009 09:45 PM zak DannySnyder well that too, but if one goes back to the recording with a critical ear as I suggest they should be able to pick up on that. A reliance on tablature in the first place suggests that a "critical ear" is not only far from developed, but in danger of total atrophy. I contend that tablature has reduced a large percentage of 'guitarists' to mere parrots that can not function musically unless they are told exactly where to place their fingers. There are people who can play a song from start to finish but if you ask them to transpose it to a different key they are completely lost, just as they'd be lost if you told 'em "here's a I-VI-II-V chord change, now play something over it." That's quite a broad range there Zak. I'm trying to describe a bridge between relying on tab and starting to use your ears. Transposing and improvising are (relatively) advanced techniques for the average surf guitarist and really have no bearing on the tab vs ear debate you inevitably drag us into. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
zak Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2728	Posted on Feb 12 2009 09:52 PM This post has been removed by the author. Last edited: Sep 28, 2009 00:33:43 Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11062 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Feb 12 2009 10:00 PM — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
zak Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2728	Posted on Feb 12 2009 10:19 PM This post has been removed by the author. Last edited: Sep 28, 2009 00:34:08 Top
BillyBlastOff Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1070 Ventura County, Calif.	Posted on Feb 12 2009 10:22 PM Zak has a good point. If you totally learn by tab alone, you'll be in trouble, especially at an open jam when somebody yells, "Ok, your turn"! You would be lost. Especially if you don't know any basic music theory. Billy — Be careful following the masses. Sometimes the "M" is silent........................... Top
Sonichris Joined: Mar 06, 2006 Posts: 1904 Wear gloves - I'm in the Rockies	Posted on Feb 12 2009 11:07 PM For some, learning by ear comes easily, for others it is an impossible task. some people just want to learn to approximate their favorite song, and that's all they hope to accomplish. If their only hope is to have some ability to play "Ali Baba" or some other song, great, lets cheer them on, and give them the tab if we have it. If they want to learn why "Ali Baba" is such a cool tune, and why "that scale goes so well with that chord progression" then lets discuss that. telling people to "learn by ear" has gotten old, and doesn't help them at all. I think it's a shame that we can't discuss more rudimentary music theory relating to surf music - I know I could use some help in those areas. — "You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been" Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11062 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Feb 12 2009 11:19 PM Sonichris I think it's a shame that we can't discuss more rudimentary music theory relating to surf music - I know I could use some help in those areas. Chris, all it takes is to post a question about rudimentary music theory, what makes you think we can't discuss? — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
BillyBlastOff Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1070 Ventura County, Calif.	Posted on Feb 12 2009 11:34 PM I guess it boils down to what you personally want to achieve. Do you wanna learn songs? Well then tab just might work for you. (if you trust it). You wanna learn music? Well then, tab won't get you very far. Billy — Be careful following the masses. Sometimes the "M" is silent........................... Top
zak Joined: Sep 24, 2007 Posts: 2728	Posted on Feb 12 2009 11:39 PM This post has been removed by the author. Last edited: Sep 28, 2009 00:34:13 Top
LHR Joined: Aug 23, 2006 Posts: 2123 The jungle	Posted on Feb 13 2009 07:11 AM I dunno, I think tablature is not totally evil. I've used it. It is like sheet music for the musically illiterate, I suppose. Some of it is well done, especially if it has the changes on it; then you can use it as a lead sheet. I have run into so much badly transcribed stuff on the Internet, though. Some of it is just obviously wrong. As beginner, try to learn as much by playing along with your favorite CDs. I think that is important for two reasons: one it will give you a sense of time and how to sorta fit in with a real band and, two, no one wants to hear a beginner play a capella licks learned rote from your tablature. I guess I am saying the same thing as everyone else here. I had better add some more information to this post, otherwise it'll be a waste of the Internet. Okay, here is my 5-step recipe: Woodshed. Play along to your favorites. Don't alter the tempo. Learn something about how music works. Join a band. Practice. Play live music. Misplace your guitar stand. Quit the band...buncha assholes! Go back to step one. — SSIV Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19321 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Feb 13 2009 07:44 AM Ha-ha Trey. We've been round and round on the tab thing. What the hell I'll state my position again, everyone else is. If you are just a beginner and want to get started playing something fun, tabs can be great. And if that's all you want to do (be a casual player forever), then fine. But to go to the next level, you have to leave the training wheels behind. I suggest trying to make your own tabs. That will force you to sit down with a pen and listen critically to music. Slowing things down on a computer really helped me a lot. I would sit there for hours looping over a slowed down lick (the computer kept the pitch the same), trying to figure it out, writing it down. After doing that for a while, my ear developed and I was able to rely less and less on the computer and after a while, stopped tabbing stuff out. It was fun, actually. But whatever works for you and your goals! — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top

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