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Permalink My old Cossacks-era Vibrasonic goes on to fame and glory...

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...unlike his previous owner! Laughing

I thought this was pretty neat: I just received a friend request on the Space Cossacks' MySpace site from an Indiana blues guitarist Mike Milligan. Here is what he wrote: "Ivan, I bought your Vibrasonic in 2002. Since then it's been on 3 CDs (sold at all Best Buys), and on stage with Robert Cray, Tower of Power, Kenny Wayne Shepherd and BB King. Nothing's changed but the tubes. Still going strong! Hope you are well! Happy new year! Keep in touch! Mike"

This is the Vibrasonic Custom that I bought in '97 and that I used to record both Space Cossacks albums. I guess it turned out to be a pretty good amp!

(In case you're interested in checking out Mike Milligan's profile:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=69911829
The music on that website is not endorsed by or affiliated to the Space Cossacks or anyone related to the Space Cossacks in any way, shape or form. Wink )

Ivan
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Interesting post, Ivan! I didn't know you used a Vibrasonic Custom on Interstelar Stomp and Tsar Wars, IMO two of the greatest surf albums of any "wave" ever recorded. Especially interesting to me because I still have my VC, one of the great but unsung Fender Amps that work well for surf. As you know it was designed for country steel guitar players and the reverb works on both channels, unlike most Fender amps. In the mid-90's the VC seemed like the closest thing available to a "Showman combo" and it's outlasted some other Fender amps that just didn't capture the sound I was looking for.

After installing some good tubes and swapping the Eminence speaker for a ceramic Weber California 15, it is definitely as loud, clean and toneful as I hoped it would be. 100 watts doesn't hurt, either.

Now if I could only replicate your "Red Sunrise" tone.... Thumbs Up

Jack Booth
(aka WoodyJ)

The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005), 2025
The Hula Hounds (1996-2000)
The X-Rays (1997-2004)
The Surge! (2004, 2011-2012)
Various non-surf bands that actually made money
(1978-1990)

that's great! not steal your thread, but I once sold a blinde 1x15 (not fender) cab to the ex-guitarist of Urban Dance Squad. (tres manos aka Rene v Barneveldt). few months later UDS did a comeback gig at one of netherlands biggest festivals with over 50k people and my cab appeared on stage - broadcasted on national TV. man was I pissed I didnt ask more money Very Happy

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"When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is."

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Very cool Ivan. The guy is a strat player as well, so it must have been kizmit Wink

Ryan
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WoodyJ
Interesting post, Ivan! I didn't know you used a Vibrasonic Custom on Interstelar Stomp and Tsar Wars, IMO two of the greatest surf albums of any "wave" ever recorded.

Thanks, Woddy! (What, the Madeira isn't in there? Crying Twisted Evil )

I actually used the VC plus a Vox AC30. I always record with a Fender and an AC30.

Especially interesting to me because I still have my VC, one of the great but unsung Fender Amps that work well for surf. As you know it was designed for country steel guitar players and the reverb works on both channels, unlike most Fender amps.

It's a great amp, no doubt. I think that Dan Ware of the Nebulas used to have one, sold it, and has been kicking himself every since. He thinks it's one of the best Fenders he's ever heard.

(Though I thought the reverb was really weak - at least it was on mine. And the trem wasn't much better.)

In the mid-90's the VC seemed like the closest thing available to a "Showman combo".

No question about it. I wonder how the Twin Reverb Custom 15 compares to it? They seem like very similar amps.

Now if I could only replicate your "Red Sunrise" tone.... Thumbs Up

Well, Woody, you first have to play a Strat!! Twisted Evil

Cool story, Wannes! Definitely not hijacked. Anybody else have stories of their gear going on to bigger things?

Ivan
Lords of Atlantis on Facebook
The Madeira Official Website
The Madeira on Facebook
The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook
The Space Cossacks on Facebook
The Madeira Channel on YouTube

One of my old marshalls ended up on tour with Journey! I sold it to a guy I knew, who sold it to some "kid" in Santa Cruz. Apparently the kid's last name was Valory. Kid brother of Ross Valory of Journey. It ended up in their touring rig somehow, but it went through three sets of hands to get there. Don't know if it was frontline or reserve, but pretty damn funny since it was hard to give away back then. Nobody wanted the 50 watt jobs in the big hair days ROTFL

IvanP

Now if I could only replicate your "Red Sunrise" tone.... Thumbs Up

Well, Woody, you first have to play a Strat!! Twisted Evil

Actually, Ivan, I have four Strats, and I'm using my favorite one on a couple of tracks on the upcoming Mariners CD...unlike our pal Eddie K, I like Strats! Also playing through an AC30 on 2 or 3 of the tracks and, believe it or not, there is a (gasp!) Esquire on a couple.

Thanks, Woody! (What, the Madeira isn't in there?

Oops, I forgot to mention that I am a huge Madeira fan as well. The only CD I am missing is Carpe Noctem. However, the Cossacks had a _much _cuter bass player!! So we can blame Catherine for my oversight... Duh

Jack Booth
(aka WoodyJ)

The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005), 2025
The Hula Hounds (1996-2000)
The X-Rays (1997-2004)
The Surge! (2004, 2011-2012)
Various non-surf bands that actually made money
(1978-1990)

Ivan, just curious, how do you combine the Fender and the Vox? what do you get out of each?
Heres my amp story...did a one off sound rental to "The little River Band" whos Twin blew up on stage....I picked up the twin and road case at load out for $100. Rebuilt it and sold it to a sound tech friend, who is now out with Johnny Mestro and the Brooklyn Bridge. The guitarist loved the 120's and bought it from my friend. That amp has been around the world at least twice. I kept the roadcase, fits my AC30 perfectly.

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Cool story Ivan! Mine is just the opposite: I used for years, a 4-12 slant Marshall cabinet that I got from Barry Bailey who played lead guitar with the Atlanta Rhythm Section. It was one that he had used both in the studio and on the road.

Of course in typical Eddie Katcher fashion, I stripped it (it looked awful anyway), repaired the woodwork and had my bud up at OAP audio shoot it with black SW Polane-T. I replaced the grill with black, reinstalled the four original Clestion Green Backs, and plopped it in an Anvil case. It was probably the best guitar cabinet I've ever had. Most of the time it was powered by a Twin Reverb Chassis in a Katcher built matching cabinet. I did also carry a Blackface Bassman amp as a spare.

Reliable info has it that Barry came up with all those great ARS hooks and leads on the fly.........

ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

Congrats Ivan!

I have a reverse fame amp story. If this amp would have stayed with its original band it might have toured the world. I was in a punk band in Dayton, Ohio in the late 70s - early 80s called The Rulers. We gigged with Toxic Reasons and became friends. When Joel, their original guitarist, enlisted in the Army he asked me if I wanted to buy his amp. It was a Music Man 410 Sixty-Five. It had built-in distortion and it always sounded great for Punk so I bought it. Then the Toxics decided to do some recording before Joel left so he borrowed the amp. They recorded their fantastic Ghost Town EP with the amp. Bruce, who had played bass, switched to lead when Joel left and I would let him borrow the amp for gigs. Bruce eventually bought his own amp and Toxic Reasons went on to become one of the top Punk bands in the world. I still have the Music Man but I rarely fire it up - it doesn't Surf very well. When The Rulers called it quits I started doing some songwriting and home recording with Bob Pollard and John Dodson using the Music Man. Over the course of the next year we wrote some good stuff IMO and made a lot of No-Fi cassette recordings but it never went anywhere and Bob went on to form Guided By Voices. It was a great amp for that era and I had a lot of fun playing it.

Some cool stories in this thread!

surfer
Ivan, just curious, how do you combine the Fender and the Vox? what do you get out of each?

I only do it in the studio. I use a splitter box after the echo, and each amp gets its own reverb unit, set slightly differently. Each amp is mic'd separately, and goes on its own track. Then usually when mixing the Fender is in the center of the stereo spectrum, while the Vox is a bit to the right. I think I get a bigger sound - and more importantly, more mids. I love the AC30's mids and highs, but it lacks in the bass area. So, combine a nice powerful Fender and an AC30 and you get the best of both worlds, IMO.

WoodyJ
Actually, Ivan, I have four Strats, and I'm using my favorite one on a couple of tracks on the upcoming Mariners CD...unlike our pal Eddie K, I like Strats! Also playing through an AC30 on 2 or 3 of the tracks and, believe it or not, there is a (gasp!) Esquire on a couple.

That's fantastic, Woody! I'm very glad to hear that. I've heard many, many great surf tones come from AC30s, for example Laika & the Cosmonauts and Langhorns. I think quite a few other Euro surf bands. Dalibor of the Bambi Molesters has been using one for the last few years, too. And kudos on the Strats. Very Happy

Thanks, Woody! (What, the Madeira isn't in there?

Oops, I forgot to mention that I am a huge Madeira fan as well. The only CD I am missing is Carpe Noctem.

That's our best one! Only $12.97 here (and you can also hear lengthy song samples to make sure the CD is to your taste) or $12.75 direct from Double Crown Records (and you can check out a few reviews of the CD, too). Rolling Eyes

However, the Cossacks had a _much _cuter bass player!! So we can blame Catherine for my oversight... Duh

Well, I can't fault you there...

Ivan
Lords of Atlantis on Facebook
The Madeira Official Website
The Madeira on Facebook
The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook
The Space Cossacks on Facebook
The Madeira Channel on YouTube

...my Mandola was borrowed by a friend, went on prime time Saturday night national TV, won a national contest and then went back to my house where it sleeps very peacefully...(I've waited 15 years to tell this story)(sigh)

ps congratulations Ivan and others Worship

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I believe the Atlantics recorded and played live with Vox amps as well. I had a Super Beatle for years and never used it for anything. One of my good buddies played keyboards out of it. It was a hell of a good keyboard amp with the four 12's and the two Goodmans horns...........ed

Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?

eddiekatcher
I believe the Atlantics recorded and played live with Vox amps as well.

Sort of. From '62 until early-to-mid '64 they always used a brownface Fender Bandmaster for lead guitar and a piggyback Vox AC30 (not top boost) for rhythm guitar only, since the Vox didn't sound very good, according to them. Since both Jim Skiathitis and Theo Penglis played lead on different songs, they would just switch amps when switching leads. In '64 (probably early) they got a good-sounding AC30 Top Boost, at which point that became the lead guitar amp. All the later singles (post-"War-of-the-Worlds") were recorded with the new Vox, and you can definitely hear its rich midrange on songs like "Giant" and "Goldfinger". I forget which amp they used during this time for rhythm guitar - I think it was the Bandmaster. Anyway, the lead guitar parts on all the classic songs, "Bombora", "The Crusher", "War of the Worlds", were recorded through a Fender Bandmaster.

Ivan
Lords of Atlantis on Facebook
The Madeira Official Website
The Madeira on Facebook
The Blair-Pongracic Band on Facebook
The Space Cossacks on Facebook
The Madeira Channel on YouTube

IvanP
That's fantastic, Woody! I'm very glad to hear that. I've heard many, many great surf tones come from AC30s, for example Laika & the Cosmonauts and Langhorns. I think quite a few other Euro surf bands. Dalibor of the Bambi Molesters has been using one for the last few years, too. And kudos on the Strats. Very Happy

Isn't the AC30 the European Bandmaster? Stir the Pot

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