Hi everyone,
I'm new to this site and was just wondering what ride cymbal you thought was best for surf?
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Joined: Dec 06, 2008 Posts: 97 Denver 
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 10:36 AM
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle 
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 11:05 AM
There is no best ride for surf. Just get one that doesn't sounds like it was made of a cheap metal. |
Joined: May 20, 2006 Posts: 2174 PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.) 
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 11:28 AM
IMO any instrument will do for surf in this case any cymbal will do, technic is what plays a big hand not the instrument. What I'm using for cymbals are "Paiste PST 3" Best of luck & welcome to SG101 -Kyle Beyond The Surf YouTube channel Last edited: Dec 06, 2008 11:31:24 |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3791 tn
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 11:30 AM
I disagree. Most newer ride cymbals are too "dingy". I try to find old Zildjians at least 20". There are some newer ones out there that sound good, but I wouldn't buy them without testing them out. You'll know the right sound when you hear it. Avoid anything with "Rock" in the title, like "Rock Ride" and make sure it has the rings in it. Those Paiste Earth Rides that were completely smooth are cool if you want to play Journey songs. —http://www.satanspilgrims.com Last edited: Dec 06, 2008 11:34:57 |
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Joined: May 20, 2006 Posts: 2174 PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.)
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 11:34 AM
If you ain't got the dough it's touch for some to find older "vintage" broken in cymbals, for the price of a used older cymbal you can buy a decent cymbal pack under 3 bills but hey that's just me I don't play full time but they work just as nice and sound decent to me ears. —-Kyle Beyond The Surf YouTube channel |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3791 tn
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 11:43 AM
I don't think they need to be broken in as much as they were made differently. You'll also find them cheaper outside of Portland area. I was blown away by how much they cost there now. Damn indie rockers. Andy at Horseshoe Music (both gone now, sniff) used to call me every time he got in an old Zildjian ride. He usually gave them to me for between $50-80. I guess those days are over now. —http://www.satanspilgrims.com |
Joined: Feb 28, 2006 Posts: 813 Boise, ID
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 12:00 PM
Medium weight A Zildjian rides and some Ks (or the Sabian, Paiste equivalents) will be more suited. You need something with some wash and stick definition but, like Ted said, not all ping. —Shawn Martin |
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 12:30 PM
hell yeah, somebody explains a drumsound so that even a non drummer can understand. kudos, drumuitar! Rules to live by #314: |
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 01:11 PM
I agree with both Ted and drumuitar. It needs to be washy and airy. Like Ted said, something that doesn't sound like 80s hair metal bell ride. I like to have a ride cymbal that can create a variety of sounds depending on the sticking. You can ride with the tip of the stick, make a more washy and loud sound by riding with 2 or 3 inched below the tip of the stick, or use it as a crash for accents. I use a Zildjian A Sweet Ride. I like the sound of it. Who is bored enough to make videos of their cymbals??!!? I guess the same people who make guitar demo videos. Science friction burns my fingers. |
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 01:36 PM
I use a newer Zildjian A 20" medium. It has a great balance of definition and wash. It stays under control under the fastest patterns. |
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 10:37 PM
Thanks Shawn Martin |
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 10:43 PM
I would but don't have any "real" cymbals anymore, just the ones with my Roland kit. When I sold my acoustics I had more rides than anything else; a 60s Paiste 602 20" medium, 21" Bosphorus med-thin, 20" Zildjian A Custom Flat, 21" Sabian Rock, 18" Pre-Aged Zildjian K, and probably a couple others. —Shawn Martin |
Joined: May 29, 2007 Posts: 225 Central CT, USA
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Posted on Dec 07 2008 11:07 AM
Instroverb, I use an older 20 inch A Zildjian. It has enough bell when I need it (Torquay, Tequila, Squad Car) - but does not wash out under moderately heavy thrashing. It does not crash very well, though. *Dick B. |
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Posted on Dec 07 2008 11:31 AM
Never having played drums (more than sitting down and beating them like a drunken monkey) after watchign some vids on youtube i am shocked at all the difference in cymbals from brand to brand and such.. and how many sounds can come outa 1 cymb.. Dying to learn drums.. but scared to buy a kit not knowing shit bout em:) — |
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Posted on Dec 07 2008 12:15 PM
There are a lot of gigworthy asian imports priced low,especially used. I wouldn't compromise on cymbals, most budget cymbals sound bad. |
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Posted on Dec 07 2008 01:59 PM
I vote Zildjian A 22". And like someone mentioned earlier, the older the better. Cymbals are like good guitars, fine wines and Eddie Katcher, they get better with age..........you KNEW that was coming didn't you?................... Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps? |
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Posted on Dec 07 2008 09:41 PM
The A Zildjian series have excellent Ride Cymbals, Plus they remind me of vintage cymbals with their CRISP JAZZY SOUND and Traditional finishes |
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Posted on Dec 08 2008 05:47 AM
That is a good question. The ride might be the most important part of the kit in surf. The last drummer I talked to about the subject (but a jazz player) he had turkish cymbals from the late 60s and they sounded pretty good. Not as good as some first wave recordings - but you never know how much is the recording and how much is the kit. —The Exotic Guitar of Kahuna Kawentzmann You can get the boy out of the Keynes era, but you can’t get the Keynes era out of the boy. |
Joined: Apr 26, 2010 Posts: 48 Anapolis, MD
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Posted on Dec 11 2012 05:36 PM
Reviving this thread - Any drummers ever play one the old Ludwig Standard ride cymbals made by Paiste? Made in Germany...not Switzerland. Too light? Many are bent but I have seen ones in decent shape. I'm Asking? |
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Posted on Dec 11 2012 09:59 PM
I don't own a kit but I play whenever there's one within reach, and I can't stand the heavy rock cymbals on a lot of kits. I go to do some light jazzy tapping and it sounds like a bell |
I like pingy rides in some situations, but mainly as auxiliary rides. A lot of the rock players use those friggin things all the time and it drives me nuts. Neil Peart uses a gigantic 24" ping ride and those suckers sound like your hammering on an anvil.
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