Richard
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Posted on Nov 15 2008 05:43 PM
This is a spin-off of the thread I started in the general forum about The Kilaueas.
There was a blue SG2 on Ishibashi's U-box a while back but the asking price was upwards of $1000 US. The SG-2C was actually something I'd never seen before that video, which was what piqued my curiosity. Were the SG-2C and others produced in significant numbers, being a budget model?
In the other Kilaueas video where he plays the red SGV 800 he states that it's strung with 10's because the guitar can't handle heavier strings. I at one point had one strung with 12's and aside from the trem sitting way forward, it was fine. Has anyone else had a problem with them?
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zak
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Posted on Nov 15 2008 05:48 PM
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Stormtiger
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Posted on Nov 17 2008 11:05 AM
Ralf Kilauea recently sent me some tips about the SGV 800, he said he uses .11s on his red one, he had to adjust the neck a little and he changed the trem springs with heavier ones.
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Diggey
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State College
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Posted on Nov 17 2008 11:50 AM
Man, I've only found 1 for sale out of Canada. These are hard to come by. They have a strange coolness about them thats for sure. Thanks for the model info.
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NicholausLee
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Posted on Nov 17 2008 01:15 PM
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NicholausLee
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Posted on Nov 17 2008 01:24 PM
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guarnerius
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 04:38 AM
Hi I hapen to have a twins of them~
everything original
and bass version
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Diggey
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State College
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Posted on Dec 06 2008 06:06 AM
crazy cool man. Thanks for the pix
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GuitarBob
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Monterey, CA
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Posted on Aug 10 2009 05:25 PM
I don't have the really cool Yamaha gtr., but I sort of have an ensemble going w/ the weird Yamaha amp.
BTW the pickups in these are really nice and twangy.
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synchro
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Posted on Aug 10 2009 08:29 PM
GuitarBob
I don't have the really cool Yamaha gtr., but I sort of have an ensemble going w/ the weird Yamaha amp.
BTW the pickups in these are really nice and twangy.
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What's the story on that amp? I've never seen anything like it. I know that Yamaha made some interesting stuff along the way but that's a new one.
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MissingLink
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Edge of the East China Sea
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Posted on Aug 10 2009 08:45 PM
zak
Richard
In the other Kilaueas video where he plays the red SGV 800 he states that it's strung with 10's because the guitar can't handle heavier strings. I at one point had one strung with 12's and aside from the trem sitting way forward, it was fine. Has anyone else had a problem with them?
Can't really see how you'd seat bigger strings in the saddle rollers...a tight fit would definitely affect tuning stability. Maybe not as drastic as a Mosrite bridge, but it is the same principle. Not saying it is impossile, but...like a Mosrite...they were not designed for heavy strings. My trem claw is pretty much maxed out with 10s. There are other guitars that are a better choice for heavy strings.
This is a bit late (just found this thread), but 11 and even 12 gauge strings will definitely fit the rollers on an SGV -- I tried this myself three days ago. Mine's a 300, but I doubt the bridge saddles are any different from an 800. I haven't actually installed the heavier strings, just lay the low E string in the roller's groove. It looks like a simple matter to add another spring for the whammy.
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tommyalvarado
Joined: Jan 03, 2008
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Delaware, USA
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Posted on Aug 10 2009 09:28 PM
synchro
GuitarBob
I don't have the really cool Yamaha gtr., but I sort of have an ensemble going w/ the weird Yamaha amp.
BTW the pickups in these are really nice and twangy.
image
What's the story on that amp? I've never seen anything like it. I know that Yamaha made some interesting stuff along the way but that's a new one.
A friend of mine sold one of these on ebay last year. It had this cool square-framed speaker in it.
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synchro
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Posted on Aug 10 2009 09:45 PM
tommyalvarado
synchro
GuitarBob
I don't have the really cool Yamaha gtr., but I sort of have an ensemble going w/ the weird Yamaha amp.
BTW the pickups in these are really nice and twangy.
image
What's the story on that amp? I've never seen anything like it. I know that Yamaha made some interesting stuff along the way but that's a new one.
A friend of mine sold one of these on ebay last year. It had this cool square-framed speaker in it.
What's it sound like? Do you know when they were made?
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tommyalvarado
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Delaware, USA
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Posted on Aug 10 2009 09:59 PM
synchro
tommyalvarado
synchro
GuitarBob
I don't have the really cool Yamaha gtr., but I sort of have an ensemble going w/ the weird Yamaha amp.
BTW the pickups in these are really nice and twangy.
image
What's the story on that amp? I've never seen anything like it. I know that Yamaha made some interesting stuff along the way but that's a new one.
A friend of mine sold one of these on ebay last year. It had this cool square-framed speaker in it.
What's it sound like? Do you know when they were made?
I think we determined it was made in the early 1970's. It had kind of an unremarkable tone, but as I recall, the one he was selling had some noise issues, and could have benefitted from a visit to the repair shop, so I'm not sure what a correct example would sound like. It wasn't very loud, either, but we were afraid to really let it breathe because we didn't want to cause any damage to the unusual speaker.
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zak
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Posted on Aug 10 2009 10:10 PM
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MissingLink
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 12:56 AM
zak
MissingLink
This is a bit late (just found this thread), but 11 and even 12 gauge strings will definitely fit the rollers on an SGV -- I tried this myself three days ago. Mine's a 300, but I doubt the bridge saddles are any different from an 800. I haven't actually installed the heavier strings, just lay the low E string in the roller's groove. It looks like a simple matter to add another spring for the whammy.
It is the same bridge. I dunno, looks to me like anything over a .50 is going to be a squeeze. Sure it will sit in the saddle, but it will rest against the outer edges of the roller with some space beneath the string. Doesn't seem like an ideal way for the string to make contact with the saddle but...might work. I haven't tried it myself. I stand by what I said earlier, the guitar was designed to be "Mosrite-esque" and putting fat strings on it seems to me as contrary to the design as doing the same on a Mosrite. But if it works for you....hey, vive la difference.
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. I have no real intention of putting the 12s on my SGV, but as I was in the middle of changing from 10 roundwound to 10 flats, thought I'd see if a set of 11s would fit in case the 10 flats don't do it for me. As there was plenty of room, I tried a 12 out of curiosity. But don't you feel that the SGVs are solid enough for heavy strings? If there's one guitar in my 'collection' that I'd trust with them, it'd be the Yamaha. Or are you saying that the pieces, though well-made, are designed to work harmoniously, and that heavy strings would upset that balance?
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zak
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 01:12 AM
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PolloGuitar
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 09:47 AM
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synchro
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 09:54 AM
tommyalvarado
I think we determined it was made in the early 1970's. It had kind of an unremarkable tone, but as I recall, the one he was selling had some noise issues, and could have benefitted from a visit to the repair shop, so I'm not sure what a correct example would sound like. It wasn't very loud, either, but we were afraid to really let it breathe because we didn't want to cause any damage to the unusual speaker.
I know that the Yamaha SS amps made in the mid '70s were pretty sterile sounding although tough as nails and as reliable as the sunrise. I had one for a while, a G50 IIRC. Played a lot of gigs on that li'l thing but it sounded awful.
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tommyalvarado
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Delaware, USA
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Posted on Aug 11 2009 03:06 PM
PolloGuitar
Here's Ralf with a couple beauties:
Cool. What's the deal with them? Looks like the block markers might have been added post-production, as well as maybe the tortoise guard on the SGV. Neat.
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