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look at what's on the charts now.

Find a song that you think you can make sufficiently surfy,

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Smaller bands and labels probably more likely to let you cover if you ask...
King Khan (I'd BET he'd be willing to let his stuff be covered for free),

I know King Khan quite well, since the mid 90s. What is it about him that makes you think that he wouldn't want to be paid for his hard work?

Well, I didn't mean it that way, I just meant that he's got a garage rock background and might be more welcoming to a surf band covering his songs

I agree with a lot of what's being said but I can also see how some people are frustrated about the amount of interest in the genre. I think there are a lot of potential listeners out there that just need a little exposure and that's why I think covers might be a good idea. Just keeping at it as is won't necessarily do it. There's a reason surf gets more popular every time Tarantino drops a soundtrack and that's because it needs another avenue to break, and I can see covers being that avenue. But it has to be to an audience that wants to hear it, and that's not the top 40 crowd.

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I agree with a lot of what's being said but I can also see how some people are frustrated about the amount of interest in the genre. I think there are a lot of potential listeners out there that just need a little exposure and that's why I think covers might be a good idea. Just keeping at it as is won't necessarily do it. There's a reason surf gets more popular every time Tarantino drops a soundtrack and that's because it needs another avenue to break, and I can see covers being that avenue. But it has to be to an audience that wants to hear it, and that's not the top 40 crowd.

Thank you. That's all I'm trying to get at here, that this could be a way to get to a new audience.

Sorry if I made anyone throw up in their mouths or made any little smiley faces shoot themselves. Just trying to suggest something that I had thought would lead to greater exposure and thus more success for the music and bands that I love.

My opinion is that the Los Straitjackets version of Celine Dion's song is GREAT because it's a GREAT song by itself. The horrible thing it's her voice, the instruments and the arrengements used for her version. But when you hear that song with surf elements you obviously like it, because it have beautiful chords and stuff...

And about the "no-melody-only-beats modern music" subject... even better! That's more defying for us to rearrange not-surf songs into surf. Surf music it's only melody? What?! I don't really think Dick Dale would think that. His way of playing it's almost most rhythmic than melodic.

I would really like to hear surf versions of songs of Belle & Sebastian, Weezer, RHCHP, Pixies (they actually do a surf cover of The Surftones's "Cecilia Ann"), Blur... well any modern band, yeah i enjoy them.

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How many soundtracks has Tarantino "dropped" that had surf on them besides Pulp Fiction? Pardon my ignorance, I don't really do new movies either.

5.6.7.8's were in Kill Bill (he also had some story about hearing them in a clothing store in Japan and bought the album off them as if it were some rare gem unheard of in the US), Jack Nitzche in Death Proof (Grindhouse)

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I just saw that you were a Dave from New York and friends with UF. No offense.

I ain't friends with Strange Dave either, by the way, so please do not associate me with him. Ever.

BTW, David Bernstein is a HUGE fan of the surf genre and an avid supporter of LIVE SURF in the NY tri-state area. He shows up at practically each and every SURF-ROCK SHINDIG I throw at OTTO's, and I always run into him at other events.

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DAVID, thanks for putting your idea out here for others to see. You never know if perhaps someone will grab your concept, give it a shot, and get positive results, right?

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This has been an interesting discussion. I haven't listened to Top 40 in several decades as I slowly descend into angry old man syndrome, so I honestly don't see the appeal. I think surf musicians should do the best they can at writing real surf music (as they define it), and who cares if we don't get mass appeal.

Probably the best hope for a shot in the arm is Tom's (tdsurf) "Sound of the Surf" film project, which is going to show the real surf music story in a professional way, without compromising the music. If the public still doesn't get it, I'm fine with that. I've been lucky to see the trailer and some behind the scenes shooting, and I think Tom and crew (which includes John Blair and our own HBKahuna) are doing a truly amazing thing that I honestly didn't think was possible.

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as much as I like the idea of promoting surf, really, this simply has no chance of succes.

think of it this way - how many of us have become hardcore black eyed peas adepts since 'pump it'?

well there's your margin of succes. The best you could hope for in terms of exposure is one f'ed up kid tellin the other "wow, that's a _really _cheesy ringtone you've got there".

but here's an idea: just put one of your really cool originals on youtube, but put "britney spears naked" in the description.

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A surf version of "Pump It" would be awesome! It would be like what happened to John Waters' "Hairspray". It started out great, no reason to change it.. But since they ran out of ideas over on Broadway, they decided to strip it of its killer soundtrack and replace it with new songs, so they could milk more money out of it and make it a musical. Then, they make a new movie of the musical. WTF? It was a frickin' movie in the first place. Give me Divine over Travolta any day.
I'm glad Waters finally made some dough, but come on.

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...maybe I can get my top-40-surf-version of "Pump It" onto the next Guitar Hero IV wii expansion pack? I'll add a bunch of extra distortion and add extra incredibly-fast DRAGONFORCE-style licks so that no one could even play it on advanced level...it would melt their controller.