WaimeaBay
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 02:29 PM
One of the most wonderful things about the 62 Jags, JM's, Tele's and Strats was how they were able to age so gracefully. The woods held up great over time, and did not shrink. The paints used were also exceptional.
To me the American Vintage RI are indispensable in terms of quality at an affordable price, but on the flip side, I highly doubt that 40 years from now these guitars will have aged gracefully. Well certainly not as gracefully as the pre-CBS era models. Only time will tell I suppose. Any opinions or thoughts on the matter?
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BillAqua
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Chicago IL.
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 04:16 PM
My 2000 American Vintage Reissue Jaguar is considerably much more yellowed than my bassists 2003 AV Olympic white Jazz Bass.
Yes they will age gracefully.
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Brian
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 04:20 PM
WaimeaBay
To me the American Vintage RI are indispensable in terms of quality at an affordable price, but on the flip side, I highly doubt that 40 years from now these guitars will have aged gracefully
Why do you feel that way? They are made of the same materials, same finish (nitro-cellulose), and comparable hardware.
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BillAqua
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 04:25 PM
Brian is right. As always? 
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Brian
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 04:28 PM
BillAqua
Brian is right. As always?
Ha. Just ask my wife.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 04:40 PM
WaimeaBay
One of the most wonderful things about the 62 Jags, JM's, Tele's and Strats was how they were able to age so gracefully. The woods held up great over time, and did not shrink. The paints used were also exceptional.
To me the American Vintage RI are indispensable in terms of quality at an affordable price, but on the flip side, I highly doubt that 40 years from now these guitars will have aged gracefully. Well certainly not as gracefully as the pre-CBS era models. Only time will tell I suppose. Any opinions or thoughts on the matter?
You sound quite biased and your mind appears to have already been made up.
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WaimeaBay
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 06:34 PM
I own 2 RI's (and 1 vintage) and love them all, I am hoping the RI's are going to stay as great as they are now, forever. I am more asking for opinions than making generalizations.
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WoodyJ
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Bethlehem, GA
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Posted on Jul 10 2006 10:22 PM
I have a black 1986 AVRI '62 Strat that I got at a guitar show a few years back. It has a V01 serial #. It had been played a good bit, but not abused. It has some nice finish checking all over the body, a few dings and scratches here and there, and the neck/headstock are yellowed a bit more than original from smoky club use. It is essentially a "light relic" for 1/3 of what a "real" Custom Shop relic Strat goes for.
I've had two local vintage guitar dealers flip out when I take it out of the case, thinking it is a real '62. I also have an early Cunetto '56 Mary Kaye relic strat, and my "played" '62 AVRI looks a lot more like the real deal. Then again, the AVRI is 20 years old now.
To answer your question...Yes, they age gracefully - if you use tham.
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krupanut
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Austin Texas
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 09:20 AM
BillAqua
Brian is right. As always?
butt kisser! 
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BillAqua
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Chicago IL.
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Posted on Jul 11 2006 02:02 PM
You can sorta see the difference here... With the Reluctant Hairlines.
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Jon
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Columbus, OH
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Posted on Jul 12 2006 11:55 AM
Yeah, you can totally tell. That's a very nice guitar, Bill.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Jul 12 2006 04:48 PM
I've always been shocked at how much Bill's Jag has aged. That thing is not that old.
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dp
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jul 12 2006 04:57 PM
BillAqua must have extra-powerful-surf-mojo-reverberator-energy...
...or something.
-dp
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WindanseaBeachBoy
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La Playa, Mexico
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Posted on Jul 12 2006 06:31 PM
One reason the Fender's aged is because they did not use such good quality lacquer, at least in the top clear coat. That's why it yellows so quickly. Imagine if that had been used on a car? Of course, car finishes aged super fast in the lacquer paint era!
CBS-era ones aged even faster becasue they downgraded the lacquer clear coat to "instrument grade," which one would think meant quality, but was the opposite. Some people say Fender is now using a polyurethane base coat, which might change things a little. Still, the top coat is thin nitro-cullulose lacquer, so should age just like the old ones. What might be different is the "checking" underneath.
Guitars, like people, all age differently. Some will become more appealing as they acquire character, while others will not. It's a good bet, a well-loved and often-used Fender Vintage Series guitar will have a fine appearance in 2040.
Gavin
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BillAqua
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Chicago IL.
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Posted on Jul 13 2006 11:03 PM
Thanks Jon, and Jake is right it's not that old. I think the guy who had it before me left it in the sun too long.
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