I'm interested why 'surf' muso's call Tremolo Picking , Double Picking ?
More intrigued at the word 'double' rather than say, 'triple' or 'Alternate' or 'Mandolin'.
Thanks in Advance
R
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Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 62 |
I'm interested why 'surf' muso's call Tremolo Picking , Double Picking ? More intrigued at the word 'double' rather than say, 'triple' or 'Alternate' or 'Mandolin'. Thanks in Advance R |
Joined: Mar 06, 2006 Posts: 796 Oakland |
I going to guess that it's the rapid "down" and "up" pic movement are the two motions; thus double picking. But what do I know, I'm a drummer. —Science friction burns my fingers. |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19265 Des Moines, Iowa, USA |
Sounds good to me. —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
Joined: Apr 21, 2006 Posts: 852 Connersville, Indiana, USA |
I've also heard it called flutter picking 'cause that's basically what you're doing...an up and down picking fast enough you're literally fluttering the string with the pick. Matt —Fast Cars & Loud Guitars! |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
If you are more intrigued at the use of 'double' than 'triple' 'alternate' or mandolin please explain why you find those better choices. Also, why would it be tremolo picking? |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19265 Des Moines, Iowa, USA |
Tremolo can also mean a volume effect, but it also appears to be the correct musical term for double picking. I learn something everyday...! —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
Tremulus was also a Roman Senator who was Consul twice in 306 BCE and 288 BCE. |
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 62 |
Tremolo picking is usually used for very static left hand sequences in music. Mandolin picking is used for a lighter touch. So.... I was wondering if 'double-picking' is called that to distinguish it from it's relatives in the picking technique world. Alternate, Economy, Sweep and Circle Picking Techniques are used, in small doses, by the greats. Some even put Chicken picking and Banjo rolls into their styles. It seems that it's a bit like making a stew, just add something for taste. WEEEE !!!!! |
Joined: Apr 21, 2006 Posts: 265 San Antonio, TX |
How about 'very fast picking'? —<img src="klzzwxh:0000"></img> |
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 62 |
It ain't that fast ! It's just relentless. |
Joined: Apr 21, 2006 Posts: 265 San Antonio, TX |
Are you a crazy man? Not that fast??? —<img src="klzzwxh:0000"></img> |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands |
you know, i almost got a heart attack when I read this thread's title. WR —Rules to live by #314: |
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Fast yeah. Not that fast though. and yes i'm being serious. |
Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 183 N.C. |
In Flamenco and Classical the technique they ---0-0-0----0-0-0----0-0-0----------------------------------------------------------2---------------------------- Example of a Flamenco tremolo ---0-0-0-0----0-0-0-0---0-0-0-0-------------------------------------------------------2------------------------- I just thought I'd confuse the issue much Some techniques that involve a pick Johnny Rocket |
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the little 0's close together is tremolo because that's what it is....rapid notes that don't flow into each other. ie staccato rather than legato. Why double ??? then ??? |
Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 183 N.C. |
The tab is an example of 3/4 timing and it is Example in 3/4 timing ---I-M-R-----I-M-R----I-M-R---------------------------------------------T------------------- T=Thumb Johnny Rocket |
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 62 |
'Double' picking because of the rhythm of the tremolo picking is as much as I could find out. It all started because I was playing guitar with a friend who's heavily into surf music and is a competent picker. He was interested in the fact that as a newbie to surf instro and spy-fi I could 'double pick' till the cows come home. I said what's double picking ? and explained that what I was doing was Tremolo picking. Hence my curiousity in the naming of the technique. He also flipped when I tapped using the edge of the pick to get double time tremolo picking effects. Anyway I'm returning to my roots and just wanted to know stuff. Roger. |
Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11046 Berkeley, CA |
Roger, I'm curious as to what you're referring to. Any way you can give us an example? I have another theory about the term 'double picking'. I know that horn players have a technique called 'double tonguing' even 'triple tonguing' which yields similar results as we're getting on the guitar. I wonder if it transferred over. Danny —Danny Snyder Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 4387 Under the Sun |
I'm a little lost, too--if he means like Eddie Van Halen (or Billy Gibbons or Steve Hackett or whoever was first--I really don't care) tapping with the pick instead of the finger, how would that be twice as fast? Also, it wouldn't be on the same note ... add me to the list of the confused on this one. -Warren —That was excessively violent and completely unnecessary. I loved it. |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands |
and on top ... the subject would belong in the shallow end forum, not in the surf musician forum. just razzing. WR (loosly paraphrased from Pulp Fiction : "what kinda technique 's that, honey?" "it's shred." "What's shred?" shred's dead baby, shred's dead.") —Rules to live by #314: |