Serpico
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Falun Sweden
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 07:37 AM
hello friends! just thought i would hear what You guys think. The drummer in my band is an old heavy metal drummer and he uses a dubblepedal to his bassdrum instead of using 2 bassdrums. I cant remembering hearing any surfband that used dubble bassdrums. I know Mel Taylor had 2 bassdrums but i dont think he used both on any song just used them for drumsolos(i could be wrong) anyways: Do you guys know any other band that uses dubble bassdrums and i also wanted to ask if you think it appropriate for surf music.
Thanks // Johan
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 08:28 AM
No, it isn't really appropriate for the music. I guess he can possibly make it classy, but I have yet to encounter classy heavy metal drumming.
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DennistheMenace
Joined: Dec 29, 2007
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Southeast, Florida
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 08:51 AM
Serpico
hello friends! just thought i would hear what You guys think. The drummer in my band is an old heavy metal drummer and he uses a dubblepedal to his bassdrum instead of using 2 bassdrums. I cant remembering hearing any surfband that used dubble bassdrums. I know Mel Taylor had 2 bassdrums but i dont think he used both on any song just used them for drumsolos(i could be wrong) anyways: Do you guys know any other band that uses dubble bassdrums and i also wanted to ask if you think it appropriate for surf music.
Thanks // Johan
That's an interesting question Johan. I guess it would depend on his drumming
style and technique of playing. I guess it probably wouldn't hurt if the double bass
was used every now and then for certain accents on a song. But then again, I don't
play drums  . I think this is going to be more of a "Hey, let's ask our drummers out there." :mrgreen:.
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Serpico
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Falun Sweden
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 09:56 AM
Yes please ask your drummers=) and also what You think as a listener not a musician..
our drummer use dubble bassdrums now but only during fills..i think it is a interesting question to..
i guess we just have to try it..
then again when I think about it why not do something original? i think people would appreciate that more than just doing it everybody always have done it and always will..
as i said: we´ll just have to try it..
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Serpico
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Falun Sweden
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 09:58 AM
JakeDobner
No, it isn't really appropriate for the music. I guess he can possibly make it classy, but I have yet to encounter classy heavy metal drumming.
i guess You are right..i was thinking of record a song when the drummer uses his dubblebassdrums and then i could put up the song here so you all can listen to it and comment. thanks for Your input.
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jp
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Brew City
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 10:32 AM
sounds like something that would really encourage a drummer to overplay. I did a sub job for an 80s cover band and the drummer had a double bass pedal. It was one of the most miserable experiences of my life. Dude wanked off all night. As a bass player it was hell. It seems that modern drummers with double bass capabilites only know a few tricks with them. I can't imagine tasteful use of double bass drum in a surf/instro context.
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Ruhar
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
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San Diego, CA
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 10:44 AM
I'd probably not seek out that bass drum sound for my tastes, but hey, what the hell, give it a shot and see how you like it.
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spskins
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tn
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 11:10 AM
I'm not a drummer, but I play one on TV.
Personally, um, no. I'm a 4-on-the-floor guy.
But if your band's sound is more prog/surf/metal, it may fit better. It depends on how far you are from the classic sound and arrangements and if there is space for it in your songs.
Here's the only eaxample I know of.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH08tOw4SoQ
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brandonio
Joined: Jan 23, 2007
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Indianapolis, In
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 11:18 AM
From what i recall the drummer in the band Destination Earth! played a double bass pedal. He came from a heavy metal background,so go figure.You should seek there music out if you haven't as of yet.
In my opinion and as a drummer i think it works out very well in surf music and I really wish more surf drummer would incorporate double bass drumming. 
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 12:37 PM
...a double-pedal??? man, that's so 20th century! check out the new 21st century triple "duallist" pedal:
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Joelman
Joined: Sep 07, 2006
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Redlands, CA
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 01:46 PM
spskins
Thanks for that video. it brought a smile to my face.. 
Man you just gotta love it.
An old fat guy playing the Wipeout solo with one hand, then with two feet, and then with BIG STICKS and ,,,, the sticks were held in the traditional way!!! Even the big ones. 
Way cool.
Thanks
Joel
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DennistheMenace
Joined: Dec 29, 2007
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Southeast, Florida
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 02:01 PM
I wanna know where he got those STICKS!!! I'm sure there's Novelty Type stores that sells stuff like that, but where??? I've got a big oversize Guitar Pick, and a set of oversize Drumsticks would be perfect for a gimmick on
stage! 
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Spud
Joined: Jul 23, 2007
Posts: 666
Oz
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 03:44 PM
Our back up drummer is a young bloke (27) who brought his double pedal along to a rehearsal, it was CRAP, a disaster, noise out of step and threw every one off.
We politely requested the non use of such an item again.
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diceophonic
Joined: May 20, 2006
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PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.)
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Posted on Mar 25 2008 05:22 PM
dp
...a double-pedal??? man, that's so 20th century! check out the new 21st century triple "duallist" pedal:
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That's kinda cool though.
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tonybologna
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Oakland
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Posted on Mar 26 2008 12:59 AM
Ted, that video was amazing!
But in my opinion, there's really no point in having a double bass pedal for surf. But if you can make it work more power to you.
I just want those giant drum sticks.
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Slingerland61
Joined: Sep 04, 2006
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PacNW (Portland)
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Posted on Mar 27 2008 01:59 PM
Double bass pedal?!!! In surf?!!!
Nahhhhh....
My good old Speed King works just fine, thanks.
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SurfBandBill
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
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San Francisco
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Posted on Mar 31 2008 03:15 AM
Lava Rat Taylor uses one on and off. More on than not, though. As long as you aren't trying to get the "budda-budda-budda-budda" bassline that can only be accomplished with double bass, it can make for some VERY cool accents and stuff if you know what you're doing.
Hopefully he'll pop on here and chime in for himself...
~B~
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LRDrummer
Joined: Apr 06, 2006
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Posted on Mar 31 2008 11:14 PM
There's a time and place for everything. I use it w/ the Rats but mainly for fills and big endings. There are a few songs we do where I incorporate it in to my beats for the songs. And when the Lava Rats practice I throw it in just to get a reaction out of Bill and Rodd! Jeremy from Pollo does a great job of using double pedal in surf in my opinion. Having a double pedal doesn't mean that one has to play blast beats through out the length of a song. It must be used properly in the context of the music. When I play with The Coppertones who are much more trad than the Lava Rats I usually pull out the DW 5000 Single pedal. I guess the point is that double pedal in surf can work.
Also that Dualist triple pedal is supposed to actually be a pretty nice piece of gear but since I can barely play 2 pedals I don't see why I'd ever need 3.
-Taylor
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wooza
Joined: Apr 24, 2006
Posts: 1618
Ithaca, NY
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Posted on Mar 31 2008 11:37 PM
Any examples of Lava Rats or Pollo songs where this thing is used? I'm trying to get a sense of what it sounds like.
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Killers_From_Space
Joined: Dec 04, 2006
Posts: 131
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Posted on Apr 01 2008 09:14 AM
Gein and The Graverobbers use it well. Works with heavy horror surf. They even do a Slayer rif from Raining Blood in one of their songs. Anthrax did it in their cover of Pipeline. If you are not a trad surf band and use it tastefully it can work -Craig(Atomic Mosquitos)
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