Serpico
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Falun Sweden
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 04:54 PM
Hello friends! i am going to record an album with my band and i have thought about using some soundclips from different movies in some of the songs, like in the beginning of a song for example. which i think could be pretty cool..like Secret Samurai that begin their song Dont fear the reverb with something that sounds to me is a sounclip from a movie..
i just wanted to ask if any of you guys know how these things work..do one need permission from the moviemakers to use soundclips from their movies?
thanks..
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bigtikidude
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 04:59 PM
The Legal answer is yes, you need permission, or have ot pay for it.
But if you use obscure clips from old movies, i'm sure you would never get caught.
Man Or Astroman used alot of old 50's and 60's B-movie sci fi films.
I'm sure they never got popped.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
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Serpico
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Falun Sweden
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 05:02 PM
ahh..so using something from Batman is out of the question..how about using clips from videos on Youtube then? i found a video with Oppenheimer where he talks..could one use something from that? i think it was recorded in 46 or something..
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bigtikidude
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 05:04 PM
Being that most surf bands are pretty small in the big picture,
you could use something from Starwars and George Lucas would probably never know.
But it all depends on if you want to chance it.
I'm not sure about you tube, I would say prob. not legally,
but wtf? go for it.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
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Serpico
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 05:08 PM
yeah you are probably right..what is the worst thing they could do?!
Thanks
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bigtikidude
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 05:37 PM
sue your ass.
ha ha ha.
but if you dont have alot of money, what are they gonna get.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
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Serpico
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Falun Sweden
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 05:45 PM
my fender jaguar? now im seriously having second thoughts about this!!
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 05:49 PM
For our album we have a quote from Back to the Future, we just had our Engineer do a near perfect impersonation of Crispin Glover as George McFly.
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tenderfoot
Joined: Feb 01, 2007
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Ellicott City, Maryland
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 06:48 PM
JakeDobner
For our album we have a quote from Back to the Future, we just had our Engineer do a near perfect impersonation of Crispin Glover as George McFly.
I believe that an impersonation is satire and is legal.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 06:59 PM
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mournblade
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central Pennsylvania
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 07:21 PM
I'm not a legal expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I believe that
one CAN sample movies, etc., if the sample is under several (seven?)
seconds.
Then again, I could be wrong.
Hell, Skinny Puppy sampled the HELL out of Legend of Hell House
on several of their albums. . . . Not to mention tons of others.
I, for one, have sampled the hell out of Blue Velvet, Return of
the Living Dead, and Twin Peaks, for what it's worth. Granted, I
haven't sold anything, so. . . . 
Vince
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Serpico
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Falun Sweden
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Posted on Mar 08 2008 08:10 PM
hmm thats interesting mr mournblade..i will try to look it up somehow..thanks
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revmike
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Mar 09 2008 12:15 PM
The bottom line is if you use a sample, no matter what length, you need permission, and you will have to pay. That's the legality of sampling. Some duplicators will not copy your CD without proof of consent.
Rev
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diceophonic
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PacNW (Vancouver, Wa U.S.A.)
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Posted on Mar 09 2008 12:59 PM
bigtikidude
sue your ass.
ha ha ha.
but if you dont have alot of money, what are they gonna get.
Jeff(bigtikidude)
They will auction off your car your home, access to your bank accounts, stocks, retirement, the court system will squeeze everything out of ya, if you don't have the funds they'll find ways to get it one way or another and the best one community service and a visit from bubba smith the jail bitch   
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Steve-O-San
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Posted on Mar 09 2008 01:36 PM
Serpico
..like Secret Samurai that begin their song Dont fear the reverb with something that sounds to me is a sounclip from a movie..
Actually, "DiscMakers," the company that manufactured and duplicated our CD would not allow us to use it without written consent. We couldn't get it so we ended up taking it out...it's still on the myspace page though
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varelux
Joined: Mar 11, 2008
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Madrid Spain
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Posted on Mar 11 2008 03:45 AM
Hello everyone, I´m new here.
You should check this web
http://www.archive.org/details/feature_films
They have plenty of Public Domain movies, wich soundtrack you can use.Many Man or astroman? sound clips come from there.
Good luck.
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Serpico
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Posted on Mar 11 2008 06:17 PM
cool! ill check that out! thank You very much varelux=)
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Ruhar
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San Diego, CA
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Posted on Mar 11 2008 07:40 PM
Yeah, in my experience unless you're using something from the public domain, its just not worth the hassle. I chose to use DiscMakers as the duplication house for our CD and they happen to audit your entire CD prior to beginning production. If there is any "questionable" copyright protected material in there, they'll make you jump through all the legal hoops.
It seems that since 2005, a new anti piracy law was enacted and a lot of companies are paying extra special attention to this issue. I tried to contact the current distributer of the film I sampled (Fatal Flying Guilletine) and they never returned my phone calls or emails, so I just decided to pull the sample and get on with finishing up the CD. I was kind of bummed, but oh well.
Cool site, Varelux, I'll definitely look at what's available there for the future.
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Tuck
Joined: Sep 02, 2006
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Denver, CO
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Posted on Mar 11 2008 10:11 PM
diceophonic
They will auction off your car your home, access to your bank accounts, ...
"That WOULD be bad!"
and a visit from bubba smith the jail bitch.
And I think in Sweden I think you're guaranteed conjugal visits, too. Anyway, I know chickens are.
Hmm. That ought to work out to a new title for the Chicken song. "Conjugal Visit Night at the Hen House."
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varelux
Joined: Mar 11, 2008
Posts: 28
Madrid Spain
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Posted on Mar 12 2008 09:49 AM
cool! ill check that out! thank You very much varelux=)
Glad I can help.I used many sound clips /footage for my surf band Los Brucelees (myspace coming soon)
Cool site, Varelux, I'll definitely look at what's available there for the future.
It was through that web I discovered Surf guitar 101.
Greetings from Madrid
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