Have any bands ever covered ballboa blue?

WaimeaBay

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Posted on Jan 30 2008 09:32 PM

This is probably one of my favorite surf tunes. I only know the marketts version, the original I presume?

I love how the astronauts cover surfer stomp, another one of my favs from the marketts. (I know the two songs are a lot alike)

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Joelman

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Posted on Jan 30 2008 11:51 PM

Balboa Blue, one of my all time favorite crusin tunes, also!!

I don't think anyone else has covered it.
I would like to hear another version, but it would be pretty hard to out do the original.
IMHO

Joel

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Klas

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Posted on Jan 31 2008 04:02 AM

I really dislike Balboa Blue, mainly because I can't stand the "romantic" sax. The Hot Doggers covered it on their 1963 Surfin' USA album, recently reissued on Sundazed. As for the Marketts, their Batman album is totally great though.

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WaimeaBay

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Posted on Jan 31 2008 08:42 AM

I know people have talked about their opinions on saxaphone in surf music befofe. I don't think I ever commented. My take is back then it really fit into what was going, and seemed to make a lot of sense for many songs. For newer surf music, I can understand why it has been fazed out, but their is nothing wrong with enjoying the classics and maybe turning on a sax solo into a guitar solo.

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Klas

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Posted on Jan 31 2008 10:04 AM

Most sax playing in surf music sound great but I really dislike the type of sax sound and style heard in Balboa Blue. Reminds me of some lame oldies cover band playing a car show.

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Joelman

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Posted on Jan 31 2008 11:47 AM

Well here below is some info that may help Klas and the rest of us out. Klas seems to know his music sound pretty well. Personaly, I always felt that the Marketts were a true south bay surf sound, that emerged along with the regular surf sound. When I listen to Balboa Blue I don't even hear any guitars. I hear a trumpet(trombone?) a Sax, a Piano, and Drums.
But here below is the story.

Joel

Steve Leggett, All Music Guide

The Marketts weren't a band in the standard sense, but a collection of veteran Los Angeles session players assembled by producer Joe Saraceno to capitalize on the emerging surf music scene of the early '60s. Loosely known as "the wrecking crew," and including, among others, guitarists Tommy Tedesco and Rene Hall, sax player Plas Johnson, bassist Jimmy Gordon, and drummers Earl Palmer and Ed Hall, the so-called Marketts had more in common with 1940s jazz than they did Dick Dale, and this charming collection of shuffles, stomps, and trippy lounge jazz is really a genre all its own. The group's first single, 1962's "Surfer's Stomp" b/w "Balboa Blue," is indicative, featuring a lazy, sax-led shuffle on the A-side, reprising the same rhythm on "Balboa Blue," only with a different melody line (again led by Johnson's sax) that generates a leisurely, joyous, and infectious groove. This is wonderful stuff, and while this version of the Marketts (they were really more a brand than a group) was marketed as a surf outfit, their gentle merging of R&B and small combo swing is really something else again, a style that -- for lack of a better term -- might be called "surf jazz." ~ Steve Leggett, All Music Guide

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Joelman

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Posted on Jan 31 2008 11:56 AM

I would like to add.

I think that the Surfers Stomp by Plas Johnson is terrible.
Now there is an old 50's sound??

Joel

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dp

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Posted on Jan 31 2008 12:27 PM

Joelman
Steve Leggett, All Music Guide

The Marketts weren't a band in the standard sense, but a collection of veteran Los Angeles session players assembled by producer Joe Saraceno to capitalize on the emerging surf music scene of the early '60s. Loosely known as "the wrecking crew," and including, among others, guitarists Tommy Tedesco and Rene Hall, sax player Plas Johnson, bassist Jimmy Gordon, and drummers Earl Palmer and Ed Hall, the so-called Marketts had more in common with 1940s jazz than they did Dick Dale, and this charming collection of shuffles, stomps, and trippy lounge jazz is really a genre all its own. The group's first single, 1962's "Surfer's Stomp" b/w "Balboa Blue," is indicative, featuring a lazy, sax-led shuffle on the A-side, reprising the same rhythm on "Balboa Blue," only with a different melody line (again led by Johnson's sax) that generates a leisurely, joyous, and infectious groove. This is wonderful stuff, and while this version of the Marketts (they were really more a brand than a group) was marketed as a surf outfit, their gentle merging of R&B and small combo swing is really something else again, a style that -- for lack of a better term -- might be called "surf jazz." ~ Steve Leggett, All Music Guide

thanks Joel...I guess that quote explains the unique Balboa Blue sound...I love that song, and I think it is ripe for a guitar-based remake...great melody line and structure...

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Joelman

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Posted on Jan 31 2008 01:05 PM

By the way, I'm not refering to the instrumental Surfer Stomp as presented by The Marketts above.

I'm refering to the version on Surfer's Pajama Party by Bruce Johnson.
hear here. http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=5813264&extid=df_bizrate_cds

Just to clear things up a bit, I feel that The Marketts version of Surfer Stomp is a classic style of early surf music. In my books at least.

Joel

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revmike

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Posted on Jan 31 2008 05:31 PM

I haven't heard it, but Earl Palmer is one of my all-time fave drummers, especially when he plays New Orleans style.

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Moon_Dawg

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Posted on Feb 12 2008 08:41 PM

The Wedge covered it on their Rhino LP "Surf Party '83". Can't say I much cared for it or the original.

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WaimeaBay Joined: Jul 05, 2006 Posts: 969	Posted on Jan 30 2008 09:32 PM This is probably one of my favorite surf tunes. I only know the marketts version, the original I presume? I love how the astronauts cover surfer stomp, another one of my favs from the marketts. (I know the two songs are a lot alike) Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1493 Redlands, CA	Posted on Jan 30 2008 11:51 PM Balboa Blue, one of my all time favorite crusin tunes, also!! I don't think anyone else has covered it. I would like to hear another version, but it would be pretty hard to out do the original. IMHO Joel Top
Klas Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 2293 Stockholm, Sweden	Posted on Jan 31 2008 04:02 AM I really dislike Balboa Blue, mainly because I can't stand the "romantic" sax. The Hot Doggers covered it on their 1963 Surfin' USA album, recently reissued on Sundazed. As for the Marketts, their Batman album is totally great though. — T H E ✠ S U R F I T E S Top
WaimeaBay Joined: Jul 05, 2006 Posts: 969	Posted on Jan 31 2008 08:42 AM I know people have talked about their opinions on saxaphone in surf music befofe. I don't think I ever commented. My take is back then it really fit into what was going, and seemed to make a lot of sense for many songs. For newer surf music, I can understand why it has been fazed out, but their is nothing wrong with enjoying the classics and maybe turning on a sax solo into a guitar solo. Top
Klas Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 2293 Stockholm, Sweden	Posted on Jan 31 2008 10:04 AM Most sax playing in surf music sound great but I really dislike the type of sax sound and style heard in Balboa Blue. Reminds me of some lame oldies cover band playing a car show. — T H E ✠ S U R F I T E S Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1493 Redlands, CA	Posted on Jan 31 2008 11:47 AM Well here below is some info that may help Klas and the rest of us out. Klas seems to know his music sound pretty well. Personaly, I always felt that the Marketts were a true south bay surf sound, that emerged along with the regular surf sound. When I listen to Balboa Blue I don't even hear any guitars. I hear a trumpet(trombone?) a Sax, a Piano, and Drums. But here below is the story. Joel Steve Leggett, All Music Guide The Marketts weren't a band in the standard sense, but a collection of veteran Los Angeles session players assembled by producer Joe Saraceno to capitalize on the emerging surf music scene of the early '60s. Loosely known as "the wrecking crew," and including, among others, guitarists Tommy Tedesco and Rene Hall, sax player Plas Johnson, bassist Jimmy Gordon, and drummers Earl Palmer and Ed Hall, the so-called Marketts had more in common with 1940s jazz than they did Dick Dale, and this charming collection of shuffles, stomps, and trippy lounge jazz is really a genre all its own. The group's first single, 1962's "Surfer's Stomp" b/w "Balboa Blue," is indicative, featuring a lazy, sax-led shuffle on the A-side, reprising the same rhythm on "Balboa Blue," only with a different melody line (again led by Johnson's sax) that generates a leisurely, joyous, and infectious groove. This is wonderful stuff, and while this version of the Marketts (they were really more a brand than a group) was marketed as a surf outfit, their gentle merging of R&B and small combo swing is really something else again, a style that -- for lack of a better term -- might be called "surf jazz." ~ Steve Leggett, All Music Guide Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1493 Redlands, CA	Posted on Jan 31 2008 11:56 AM I would like to add. I think that the Surfers Stomp by Plas Johnson is terrible. Now there is an old 50's sound?? Joel Top
dp Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california	Posted on Jan 31 2008 12:27 PM Joelman Steve Leggett, All Music Guide The Marketts weren't a band in the standard sense, but a collection of veteran Los Angeles session players assembled by producer Joe Saraceno to capitalize on the emerging surf music scene of the early '60s. Loosely known as "the wrecking crew," and including, among others, guitarists Tommy Tedesco and Rene Hall, sax player Plas Johnson, bassist Jimmy Gordon, and drummers Earl Palmer and Ed Hall, the so-called Marketts had more in common with 1940s jazz than they did Dick Dale, and this charming collection of shuffles, stomps, and trippy lounge jazz is really a genre all its own. The group's first single, 1962's "Surfer's Stomp" b/w "Balboa Blue," is indicative, featuring a lazy, sax-led shuffle on the A-side, reprising the same rhythm on "Balboa Blue," only with a different melody line (again led by Johnson's sax) that generates a leisurely, joyous, and infectious groove. This is wonderful stuff, and while this version of the Marketts (they were really more a brand than a group) was marketed as a surf outfit, their gentle merging of R&B and small combo swing is really something else again, a style that -- for lack of a better term -- might be called "surf jazz." ~ Steve Leggett, All Music Guide thanks Joel...I guess that quote explains the unique Balboa Blue sound...I love that song, and I think it is ripe for a guitar-based remake...great melody line and structure... Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1493 Redlands, CA	Posted on Jan 31 2008 01:05 PM By the way, I'm not refering to the instrumental Surfer Stomp as presented by The Marketts above. I'm refering to the version on Surfer's Pajama Party by Bruce Johnson. hear here. http://www.deepdiscount.com/viewproduct.htm?productId=5813264&extid=df_bizrate_cds Just to clear things up a bit, I feel that The Marketts version of Surfer Stomp is a classic style of early surf music. In my books at least. Joel Top
revmike Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3810 North Atlantic	Posted on Jan 31 2008 05:31 PM I haven't heard it, but Earl Palmer is one of my all-time fave drummers, especially when he plays New Orleans style. Rev — Canadian Surf http://www.urbansurfkings.com/ Top
Moon_Dawg Joined: Apr 22, 2006 Posts: 98 Fairfax, VA	Posted on Feb 12 2008 08:41 PM The Wedge covered it on their Rhino LP "Surf Party '83". Can't say I much cared for it or the original. Top

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